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Old 22nd October 2020, 18:02
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About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

Looking for information about this picture and plane. Can somebody help me. Tanks
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Old 23rd October 2020, 08:37
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

Looks like the WerkNr. can be read in the original image - can you decipher it and tell us the result? It might help us to identify the wreck and find out its whereabouts.

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Old 23rd October 2020, 09:55
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

I think the last three digits could be 787 but they just disappear into pixels if you magnify the image very far.
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Old 23rd October 2020, 16:38
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

Assuming the last three digits of the WerkNr. are indeed 787, then this could be the remains of Bf109G-6/AS WerkNr. 163 787 from 5./JG27 which crashed near Wilsdorf on 29 August 1944 during a transfer flight owing to hitting an obstruction in bad weather, the pilot Uffz. Heinz Tampier being killed. The markings would have been "white 16 + -". Yet, this is only a guess until we can clearly see the complete WerkNr.

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Old 23rd October 2020, 16:44
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

Where are the wings? Looks the machine was blown up instead of being recovered.
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Old 23rd October 2020, 17:13
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

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Assuming the last three digits of the WerkNr. are indeed 787, then this could be the remains of Bf109G-6/AS WerkNr. 163 787
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163 … would be my best guess (and only a guess) at the first three digits in the photo. Well spotted!
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Old 23rd October 2020, 18:22
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

Many thanks for Jochen and Nick. I don't remenber the origin of the picture, but probably via internet. The owner write on back side a Werk Nummer 140387 and a location "Goupillore". Perhaps for Goupillieres, two villages in France, one not far away from Rambouillet (Yvelines) the other south of Caen in the Calvados !
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

This type of Ruder so early ??

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Old 23rd October 2020, 19:22
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

Hello everyone,
Regarding the tail assembly on this “AS,” while all of the details are not totally clear in the photo, what looks like a metal rudder with the “standard“ curved lower outline, suggest that this is a tall metal unit. This would fit nicely with its being a Bf 109 G-6/AS in 1944.
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Old 23rd October 2020, 19:50
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Re: About a Bf 10 G 6/AS (probably) crashed in 1944

Hi there,

The origin of this image is a veteran photo posted by Lonnie over on Flickr.com:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/meanpc...-G5vJ4J-G7NNTB

The original caption says indeed "Goupillore, France. Crashed german plane."

I tried to read the W.Nr. when I found that photo and formulated the W.Nr. 140387 hypothesis. Scrutinizing this photo again, we might have 165387, the last four digits being quite readable.
For W.Nr. 165387, I have a 30% Bedienungsfehler bei Landung damage at Fl.Pl. Darmstadt-Griessheim incurred 10 July 1944, and then nothing more.

Notice too that this machine is in the overall RLM 76 scheme as applied by Reparaturbetrieb ERLA VII at Antwerpen.

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