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Old 24th February 2010, 11:36
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B17 loss on 29-April-1944 over Brunswick, Germany

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You probably need to start into the Macr's - footnote.com
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Many thanks, that is a very useful website indeed.

From information already posted on this thread and also by Rob Romero on a thread concerning 29-April-1944, it appears the following B-17 aircraft were lost:

B-17 4236 42-31353 91/322 0353 1Lt James F Purdy Jr. KIA Queenie (146th) AA 1142 Wing Broke Off 3KIA/2MIA
B-17 4260 42-3513 92/326 513 Lt Russell M Munson ?

B-17 4261 42-97319 92/326 319 Lt John B Langfeldt ?
B-17 4467 42-31498 94/331 Chias ?
B-17 4468 42-102520 94/332 McClurkin ?
B-17G 4470 42-37988 95/336 Vilberg ?
B-17G 4469 42-31320 95/412 LeaserIll Be Around AA -Crashed near Hamstede/Germany 10POW
B-17F 4471 42-3158 303/427 158 CR-L 2Lt James H Fischer POW Max Ftrs over Target 8KIA/2POW Spare -Last 303 B-17F Lost
B-17G 4463 42-31241 303/427 241 CR-S
2Lt Howard J Bohle Spirit of Wanette AA/Bf 110 Maj. Walter Barte (23) -Crash Landed in Sea NW of Valse at Falster/Lolland Island/Denmark 5KIA/4POW/1EVD
B-17 4240 42-31556 306/368 Lutz ?
B-17-G-50 4242 42-102448 384/545 JD*P Lt. Bouvier ?
B-17 4456 42-31773 385/548 GX-M Johnston Bf-109? Crashed near Laatzen/Gleidingen, Germany. 2 KIA (1 Murdered)8 POW
B-17 4459 42-97559 385/549 Barney Bf-109?
B-17 4457 42-97078 385/550 Henry Bf-109?
B-17 4460 42-107045 385/550 Sexton Bf-109?
B-17 4453 42-31133 385/551 Garza Bf-109?
B-17 4454 42-31174 385/551 Hart Bf-109?
B-17 4458 42-97226 385/551 Huntington Bf-109?
B-17 4243 42-31393 388/560 D E Walker (102nd Mission) AA Parsau/France
B-17 4244 42-37980 388/562 J O Coyner Fighters
B-17G 4245 42-102526 390/571 N Rayburn Severe Damage, one engine smoking, dove into clouds. Crashed at Geitsche/Germany All POW
B-17G-5 4345 42-31226 401/613 2Lt D.E. Butterfoss AA over Target -Crew MIA
B-17G-1 4344 42-31116 401/614 IW-O 2Lt J.H. Singleton Cawnt Miss (60)AA 5KIA/5POW
B-17G-20 4346 42-31521 401/615 Gould Badland Bat AA? -Crew MIA?
B-17 4247 42-31144 447/708 Lt Hayden T Hughes Rowdy Rebel
Miss AmericaFtrs en route Destedt/Germany 9KIA/1POW
B-17 4250 42-37866 447/708 Donahue Bloated Body Ftrs -Crashed near Abbenrode/Germany. 2 KIA/8 POW
B-17 4251 42-37868 447/708 Blom Due Back Ftrs 4 KIA/6 POW
B-17 4255 42-102479 447/708 Farrell ?
B-17 4254 42-102421 447/709 Dowler ?
B-17G-5-BO 4249 42-31217 447/710 IJ-G 2Lt Harold M Paris Rowdy Rebel

My next job will be to exclude those as listed as victims of flak and any others which can be ommited, hopefully narrowing down the B-17 as claimed by Georg-Peter Eder.

Many thanks again.

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B17 loss on 29th April 1944 over Brunswick, Germany

Even after removing the B-17 aircraft listed as being shot down by Flak/AA fire, the list is still comprehensive!

In the cold light of day I think that the chances of putting a positive ID on Oberleutnant Georg-Peter Eder's B-17 claim are very thin.

That said, if anyone can add any light to the question from the remaining aircraft listed below, then I can assure you that it will be very well received indeed.

Regards Richard.

B-17 4260 42-3513 92/326 513 Lt Russell M Munson ?
B-17 4261 42-97319 92/326 319 Lt John B Langfeldt ?
B-17 4467 42-31498 94/331 Chias ?
B-17 4468 42-102520 94/332 McClurkin ?
B-17G 4470 42-37988 95/336 Vilberg ?
B-17F 4471 42-3158 303/427 158 CR-L 2Lt James H Fischer POW Max Ftrs over Target 8KIA/2POW Spare -Last 303 B-17F Lost
B-17 4240 42-31556 306/368 Lutz ?
B-17-G-50 4242 42-102448 384/545 JD*P Lt. Bouvier ?
B-17 4459 42-97559 385/549 Barney Bf-109?
B-17 4457 42-97078 385/550 Henry Bf-109?
B-17 4460 42-107045 385/550 Sexton Bf-109?
B-17 4453 42-31133 385/551 Garza Bf-109?
B-17 4454 42-31174 385/551 Hart Bf-109?
B-17 4458 42-97226 385/551 Huntington Bf-109?
B-17 4244 42-37980 388/562 J O Coyner Fighters
B-17G-20 4346 42-31521 401/615 Gould Badland Bat AA? -Crew MIA?
B-17 4247 42-31144 447/708 Lt Hayden T Hughes Rowdy Rebel
Miss AmericaFtrs en route Destedt/Germany 9KIA/1POW
B-17 4251 42-37868 447/708 Blom Due Back Ftrs 4 KIA/6 POW
B-17 4255 42-102479 447/708 Farrell ?
B-17 4254 42-102421 447/709 Dowler ?
B-17G-5-BO 4249 42-31217 447/710 IJ-G 2Lt Harold M Paris Rowdy Rebel
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Re: B17 loss on 29th April 1944 over Brunswick, Germany

Were there 2 different B-17's operating in Europe in 1944 both named Queenie?
I have read here that a B-17 Queenie was lost in April 1944.
I have a photo of my grandfather posing with his crew in front of his b-17 also named Queenie, dated Aug. 1944. So does this mean there were 2 different Queenie's both in Europe in 1944? Incidentally, the noseart on this queenie is different that what I see represented on other pages. It is not the reclining girl in a swimsuit with the wide brim hat. Any info would be appreciated.
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Re: B17 loss on 29th April 1944 over Brunswick, Germany

there is an Queenie of the 91th BG shot down on 29 april 1944
crashed in berlin
the pilot is MIA and i adopted his name on the wall of missing
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