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I wrote that the fighters were of primary importance, I stand by those words. That doesn't mean that the bomber force didn't have a mission, or that it was of no importance. As for FC numbers versus the Jagdwaffe, most force multipliers were enjoyed by the defending force. That would negate any numerical advantage the Jagdwaffe might have enjoyed in the early phase of the battle.
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Unfortunately this is a very poor example with little insight into the nature of war. It illustrates a violation of the Principle of War called "Mass". The RAF violated this principle by launching raids which could not inflict sufficient damage to the target. By violating mass, the RAF opened up the option for the Luftwaffe to ignore the raids. A much better example would be the USAAF unescorted daylight bombing campaign. The USAAF adhered to the principle of mass forcing the Germans to counter the raids or suffer significant damage to the target. However without fighter escort to win air superiority the USAAF unescorted daylight campaign was defeated. All the best, Crumpp |
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Official histories tend to be subjects of propaganda!
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OK, then official histories tend to represent a state of knowledge that is later improved upon.
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Certainly. Each must be taken in its own light. The official history of the Battle of Britain is far from the popular version. The popular version has the RAF heavily outnumbered with England's fate teetering on the actions of the few in Spitfires. While there is little doubt the most important factor of the battle was the men who fought it doing their jobs. The official history combines their bravery on the battlefield with the fruition of pre-war planning, a numeric parity combined with good tactical use of force multipliers backed up by one of the most innovative logistical organizations of the day. There is simply nothing to compare to the CRO in Europe in 1940 AFAIK. The pre-war production planning ensured the production assets were in place to completely outstrip German production. It allowed the RAF to increase the size of the operational squadrons and the overall force in a very short time period. The CRO ensured that these expanded squadrons were rarely below strength when German units were operating at greatly reduced strengths. The RAF documentation on fighter establishment, strength, and wastage very much backs up the official history version. Quote:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IBO/is_4_24/ai_74582443 Quote:
http://www.aflma.hq.af.mil/lgj/2_afjl_mission_page.html All the best, Crumpp Last edited by Crumpp; 30th August 2008 at 18:06. Reason: spelling |
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Hello Crumpp
the limiting factor for FC was the number of combat ready fighter pilots in sqns, IIRC there were over 10% defiency in pilots in mid Sept 40. And thanks for the interesting link. Juha |
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I agree. I think all sides felt this constraint and not just the RAF. Facts are trained crews are the most difficult loss to replace in aerial warfare. The Germans had inadequate systems from the very beginning. They maintained inadequate training regiments throughout the war. From Technical Training Within the German Luftwaffe, by Werner Kreipe and Rudolf Koester: http://afhra.maxwell.af.mil/numbered_studies/468178.pdf All the best, Crumpp |
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That is 97% of the serviceable rate for German SE fighters!
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