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Old 23rd April 2007, 01:04
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Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

Uffz Heinz Krösing 1.(F)/123 bacame a POW 22Aug43 (shotdown by Spitfire IX (F/L Kenneth B.L. Debenham 249 Sqn)). It is stated in both "Those Other Eagles" and "Spitfires Over Sicily" that Krösing was a recipient of the Ritterkreuz.

I can not find any details of Krösing's award of the RK (or DKiG) can anyone tell me the date he received this award (if indeed he was a RKT)

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Old 23rd April 2007, 01:26
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Re: Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

I do not find him listed in either of Veit Scherzer's volumes, Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold der Luftwaffe 1941-1945 Scherzer's Militair Verlag, 1992), and Ritterkreuz Träger 1939-1945 (Scherzers Militaire-Verlag, 2005).

Perhaps Brian Cull has further information.

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Old 23rd April 2007, 01:45
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Re: Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the answer. Like you I can't find any reference to him receiving the RK (or DKiG) in any of the usual sources, that's why I'm thinking maybe it's an error. I've tried spelling variations and still have been unable to find a match.

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Re: Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

Ju 88D-1, 430651, WISSEL, Ltn. Günther (B)/KRÖSING, Uffz. Heinz (F), , 1.(F), 123, wei§ D, 4U+DH, , , 22-Aug-43, Crew POW, being shot down by Spitfire from 249 Sq. (F/L Debenham). FSA, F and Bf WIA., Loss report says '4U+GH'., Mittelmeer, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20; Cull, Spitfires Over Sicily, p.196, , North of Grand Harbor, Malta, 100%, F

Looks like a two-fer RK crew. There was also a list from an old Fernauklarer book by ???? - can't remember name - one of the most proilific authors on German avaiation ever.
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Old 26th April 2007, 02:37
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Re: Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

Hi Jim,

Yes "Spitfires Over Sicily" also states that "The Observer Officer [Lt Günther Wissel a double Knights Cross recipient] ordered the crew to bale out".

I can find no reference to Wissel receiving the RK either (as well as Krösing) in the usual sources (or DKiG). Maybe RK is mentioned in error for EK in both cases.

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Re: Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

Good afternoon Mr Fletcher,

I found the same in Brian Cull's highly recommendable "249 at Malta" where on p185 a 22Aug1943 incident is described: "...The W/Op, Uffz Günther Lehmann, was less seriously wounded, while the observer, Lt Günther Wissel, a double Knights Cross recipient, escaped with only a dunking..."

What is the story behind that ?

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There are plenty of Knight's Cross holders that never made the list at all.

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Re: Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

The Kracker Luftwaffe Archive tells us:


Ju 88D-1 Werk # 430651 "4U + CH" (lost 8/22/43) Wound Badge, Observer Operational Clasp
MIA with his Observer Lt Günther Wissel and two other unnamed crew over Malta 22 August, 1943 probably due to enemy return fire (Ju 88 Loss List). Added: POW; SD with wounds and hospitalized at St Patrick's before encarsiration (German Losses Over Malta).
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Re: Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

The German POWs Malta list has Ff Uffz Heinz Kroesing wounded born 17-12-19 , B Ltn. Guenther Wissel wounded born 11-8-20 , Bf Uffz Guenther Lehmann wounded born 11-2-22. All taken to 45 General Hospital St. Patricks possibly an AD(I)K report exists which might say if any were RK holders.
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Re: Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

I would like to know what a double RK was? RK with Bar?
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