Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 19th July 2005, 08:59
Jochen Prien Jochen Prien is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hamburg / Germany
Posts: 558
Jochen Prien is on a distinguished road
October 8th, 1943 - Attack on Bremen

On October 8th, 1943, the 8th USAAF targeted Bremen once more. Two formations of B-17s of 1st and 3rd BD were employed, which appraoched their target on different routes. Whereas one formation made a landfall west of Groningen in the Netherlands to proceed over land the other flew over the North Sea along the coastline of the Frisian Islands. Both formations met with stiff resistance by German fighters, resulting in large scale aerial combats.

My question is: Which BD took the route over land and which was was flying in over the North Sea ? Any clue would be much appreciated.

Jochen Prien
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 19th July 2005, 09:53
Jaap Woortman's Avatar
Jaap Woortman Jaap Woortman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 540
Jaap Woortman is on a distinguished road
Re: October 8th, 1943 - Attack on Bremen

Dear Jochen,


The mission was fully described in Ab Jansen's 'Sporen aan de hemel' part 2 page 37-98. Unfortunately the book is written in Dutch. From the book I have copied the map at page 53 which gives the route of the Netherlands. If you have any further questions you can contact me or mr. Ab Jansen.

Jaap
Secr. Dutch Studygroup Airwar 1939-1945.
Webmaster www.airwar39-45
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 19th July 2005, 10:05
Jochen Prien Jochen Prien is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hamburg / Germany
Posts: 558
Jochen Prien is on a distinguished road
Re: October 8th, 1943 - Attack on Bremen

Dear Jaap,


many thanks. I simply forgot to look into AB Jansens' Spooren an de Hemel. Reading Dutch gives me no problems since I'm married to a Dutch woman and therefore half of the family speaks Dutch ( I could read Jansens' book even before that ).

Cheers

Jochen
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 19th July 2005, 18:44
Erich's Avatar
Erich Erich is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 255
Erich
Arrow Re: October 8th, 1943 - Attack on Bremen

Jochen:


am not sure if this would be of interest but several 8th AF bomb group vets do respond on this site:

www.armyairforces.com

possibly pose the question there at least for their impressions ?

Erich ~
__________________
Nur die jenigen, die man vergisst, sind wirklich tot.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 20th July 2005, 22:52
John Manrho John Manrho is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,738
John Manrho will become famous soon enough
Re: October 8th, 1943 - Attack on Bremen

Super, nice to see that Ab's work still comes in handy......great character, his work was responsible for my interest in air war research and we, at least in Holland, owe him much. John.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
II./JG 54 on 11 October, 1943 Csaba B. Stenge Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 3 24th September 2005 18:58
Greatest Stuka attack in summer 1943? markojeras Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 0 6th July 2005 13:28
Claims identites Adam Allied and Soviet Air Forces 3 27th May 2005 00:05
Salerno Invasion September 1943 - attack on USS Savannah timothydaiss Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 11 4th March 2005 18:38
Losses of III/JG2 January 1943 to October 1943 . infos needs heinz Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 12th February 2005 18:56


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net