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Old 13th August 2022, 15:11
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Re: P51c HSoZ, 260 Sqn, RAF serial?

I wouldn't say typo Alex, it is much more likely to have been the next aircraft coded Z, the serial of which may be nothing like KH609.
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Old 13th August 2022, 17:05
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Re: P51c HSoZ, 260 Sqn, RAF serial?

Hi Andy,
Yes you may have hit the nail on its head, could well be another "Z"

Also I see that KH604 seems to have disappeared from the ORB after KH609 was lost and miraculously reapears. I wonder if the "9" was a continuing typo for a "4"
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Old 30th August 2022, 04:36
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Re: P51c HSoZ, 260 Sqn, RAF serial?

Hi all,
The subject photo of HS*Z shows a factory painted camouflage pattern and shows no dorsal fin fillet. As such, the serial has to be between FB351 and KH430.
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Old 29th October 2022, 16:41
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Re: P51c HSoZ, 260 Sqn, RAF serial?

Hi!

John Melson, Thank You! I know am very late with this response but some real life things happened and I forgot this.

I did go through the 260 Sqn ORB from Jan 15th to May 4th, 1945.
Seems all 260 Sqn P-51c were earlier than FB351 and higher than KH430. FB314 is the latest and KH450 the earliest I could find.

The squadron did have following HB series Mustangs: HB880, HB900, HB919, HB922, HB929, HB943, HB945, HB958, HB959, HB960 and HB968. Do they match to the no dorsal fin and factory pattern classification?


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Old 30th October 2022, 03:36
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Re: P51c HSoZ, 260 Sqn, RAF serial?

Hi Kari,
Just to remind you that in post 6 I did explain that HB609 was not a P51 Mustang but was a Argus II.

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Old 30th October 2022, 11:30
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Re: P51c HSoZ, 260 Sqn, RAF serial?

Hi!

Alex, "HB609" appears only once, on 7th March, 1945 with P/O J McFarland on controls. I had it highlighted in orange in my excel-sheet because I thought it was suspect.

Meanwhile another 260 Sqn mystery has evolved.

IWM has photo of Mustang HSoE:

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205209479
Caption says: "North American Mustang Mark III, HB971 ‘HS-E’, of No. 260 Squadron RAF, taking off from Cervia, Italy, armed with eight 3-inch rocket projectiles under each wing."

I haven't found HB971 in 260 ORBs Jan-May 1945 at all.
It seems R Caruana in Model Aircraft Magazine, Issue 48 July 2009 has HB922 as HSoE ( http://www.modelaircraftmagazine.com...s/info/066.htm ). This fits much better to ORB data. Would like to find the magazine to to see what it is based on.

Are there other known 260 Sqn Mustang HB Serial and Code pairs? Besides those in this thread.

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Old 30th October 2022, 12:37
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Re: P51c HSoZ, 260 Sqn, RAF serial?

HB971 is a Thunderbolt serial (block started at HB962)
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Old 30th October 2022, 21:12
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Re: P51c HSoZ, 260 Sqn, RAF serial?

Hello Kari,
HB822 to HB961 all had factory applied camouflage.
KH431 was the first to receive the factory dorsal fin fillet.
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