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Old 24th September 2009, 21:49
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USN pilot losses

Hi guys,

Would anyone know the identities of the pilots who were killed in the following accidents:

Curtiss F11C-2 BuNo 9268, crashed into sea 6m off Ja Jolla CA, 12 Dec 1933.

Curtiss BFC2 BuNo 9340, crashed over the side when landing onboard USS Saratoga 4 May 1936.

Curtiss BF2C-1 BuNo 9593, crashed into sea 11 Sept 1935.

Curtiss BF2C-1 BuNo 9594, crashed during night formation training 29 Jan 1935.

Any help appreciated.

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Old 25th September 2009, 18:27
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Re: USN pilor losses

Alex,

Check out this link: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/NHC/accidents.htm

12/12/33: Lt (jg) William S. Arthur
4/5/36: Ens. Hugh N. Boadwee (off Mexico coincides with USS Saratoga participating in maneuvers Canal Zone 27/4-6/6 1936)
29/1/35: Lt (jg) Robert C. Haven

No match at first sight for 11/9/35.

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Old 25th September 2009, 21:24
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Re: USN pilor losses

Hi Leendert,

Thanks for the info. That's a really useful website. I haven't really done much research into American aircraft/pilots before.

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Old 4th October 2009, 17:28
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Re: USN pilor losses

Hello Alex,

Is the date for the 11th September 1935 set in stone ?

There is the loss given as on the 11th May 1935.
Lt. (jg) Mathis Beally Wyatt died when plane crashed into the sea and sank just after take off from USS Saratoga (CV-3). 11 May 1935.

this date too may be incorrect and it may well be 11th sept 35

Date of death for Wyatt may be easier to confirm first.

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Old 4th October 2009, 18:04
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Re: USN pilor losses

LTJG Mathis Beally Wyatt, USN, USNA 1929, graduated 28/240. Born 30 Oct 1907, South Carolina. Killed in plane crash NorPac, 11 May 1935. From USNA Register of Alumni
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Old 4th October 2009, 21:43
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Re: USN pilot losses

Hi guys,

The info I have came from a website that deals with US BuNos. All it states for BF2C-1 BuNo 9293 is simply crashed at sea Sep 11, 1935, pilot killed.

I'm trying to locate and obtain the aircraft history cards for all the BF2C-1s to see what sort of info they contain.

Alex,

please drop me an email at acrawford12@sky.com

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Old 14th October 2009, 23:50
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Re: USN pilot losses

New York Times - May 13, 1935

Lieutenant Matthias Beally Wyatt, attached to the aircraft carrier Saratoga, ... Attached to VF Squadron 6-6, he was flying a single Boeing fighter and had ...

I think this means he was probably flying F4B-4 A8917 which crashed on May 11th 1935 and NOT Curtiss BF2C-1 BuNo 9293
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Old 15th October 2009, 16:17
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Re: USN pilot losses

Hello Paul.
Thank you for the confirmation re the date and loss of Lt. Wyatt.
This leads us back now to the 11th September 1935 and the Curtiss pilot loss, who was he ?

Thanks
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Old 26th January 2010, 16:42
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Re: USN pilot losses

Reply to request for NAvy plane 9593. This aircraft was flown by Lt. Walter Dennison Leach Jr., who was my father. He was a USNA grad of 1924 and was flying out of North Island on routine gunnery practice. The right upper wing of the plane broke off an he spiraled into 1800 feet of water off what is now Miramar. No recovery of pilot or plane was made. I acquired the formal 100 page review of the accident just several years ago, with the help of Senator Barbara Mikulski of Maryland, through the national archives.
Any questions you may have will be gladly answered. I have one myself. I find it somewhat curious that you could know of the accident and plane type but not have discovered the pilot's name at the sme time.
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Old 27th January 2010, 12:19
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Re: USN pilot losses

Walter

" I find it somewhat curious that you could know of the accident and plane type but not have discovered the pilot's name at the same time. "

This is not curious.. There are numerous books and websites which detail the history and serial of a certain aircraft but do not detail the pilot name at the time of loss. I reckon 50% of queries on this site are .. "Can anyone confirm crew for Aircraft XXXX lost on ????' or can someone tell me how JT John Doe died on date ????

The art is matching the info together... So the full history is made avialable..

I surmise Alex Smart got his info from this website. As you see no pilot mentioned, so he wanted to discover the name...


http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/firstseries2.html


BTW I am surprised I did not post your fathers name as the pilot of NAvy plane 9593. As I found it out from Google News Archive.... See below

Anyway thank you very much for confirming your fathers name and thank you for posting further details


"Warships' flages were at half-mast from 10 to 11 am. here today when a memorial was held at the Naval Air Station for Lieut. Walter D. Leach."

Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Sep 12, 1935
Walter Denison Leach, 33, was reported killed today when the navy plane he was piloting plunged into the ocean 19 miles northwest of La Jolla. ...


Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Sep 18, 1935
Walter Dennison Leach. Jr.. UVS.. died September 11. 1035, rear La Jol.1 CAL 'nto the ocean nineteen miles northwest of La Jolla, accord- ing to reports. Leach was attached to Squadron VB5B on the U.S.S. Lexington.

Walter D. Leach. 33 years of age. killed Wednesday when his plane plunged into the ocean off La Jolla. Navy planes continued to search for his body today. ...
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