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Old 24th September 2009, 21:52
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Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

What kind of unit was Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West
4./Jagdgruppe West 16./Ergänzungs Jagd-Geschwader 1?

Im looking for a pilot i belive was part of this unit in april 45, died there.

Is there anybody that have a list of losses for the unit in that period, and maybe scores?

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Old 24th September 2009, 22:18
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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

JGr. West was an operational training unit

http://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jgrwest.htm

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Old 24th September 2009, 22:49
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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

Operational trainig units. Did they fly missions? Can anybody describe their daily routine and how they were organized?

what kind of plane did the unit im looking for fly in that period?

Anybody know where i can find the history of the unit im looking for?
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Old 25th September 2009, 22:58
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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

An Operational Training Unit will train pilots on the operational aircraft and provides mission training.

The aircraft of the unit are:

http://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/ejg1.htm
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Old 25th September 2009, 23:39
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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

Gelbe 3,

It would help if you tell us the name of the pilot.....In April 1945 several EJG 1 Staffel flew operations and not only the instructor pilots.

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Old 26th September 2009, 10:27
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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

Hi.

The pilot's name is Günther (or Günter) Seraphim.

He was probably not in EJG 1 per se, probably just still using the 4./Erg.J.G. West Erkännungsmarke when he was killed.

Anyone got information on how he was killed? I have speculated that he was still a member of the Stab IV./JG 5 when he was killed on April 10th 1945, but he was killed in Germany, not in Norway. Maybe transferred shortly before or on leave??

I know that other parts of the unit transferred pilots to the Reichsverteidigung

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Old 26th September 2009, 18:03
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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

I got some information that "his aircraft was shot down and crashed at Feldmark Schweringen near Hanover on 10 April 1945.His body was found lying next to his aircraft"

Is there anybody that confirm that he was shot down? If so, maybe in what aircraft? Some might even find out who and how he was shot down?

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Old 27th September 2009, 16:39
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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

Merely a suggestion, but if Schweringen, Niedersachsen is meant, then there was a claim by F/L W.E. Schrader of 486 Squadron (Tempest V, SN129) of a Fw-190 destroyed at/near not too far away Nienburg on 10 April 1945.

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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

My uncle was a staffelkapitaen in Erg. Jagdgruppe West in 1940-41, later he was CO of Erg. Jagdgruppe 51 and in April 1945 he was with Erg. JG 1. They flew training sorties but often encountered enemy aircraft.
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Re: Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe West

Ergänzungs-Jagdgruppe West wasn't formed until the end of January/beginning of February 1942 (at Cazaux/SW France), according to Prien in his JG 1/11 history on page 1665. It is first listed in the Gen.Qu.(6.Abt.) Verlustmeldungen on 12.02.42 when a Bf 109 E-7 belly landed at Cazaux due to engine trouble and was rated 60% damaged.

Your uncle must have been in one of the Ergänzungs-Verbände of JG 2 or JG 26 that preceeded Erg.JGr. West.
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