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Old 1st February 2010, 17:06
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LUFTWAFFE 39/45

I AM SENDING THE FOLLOWING REQUEST TO VARIOUS LUFTWAFFE ASSOCIATIONS, BUT NOT MUCH SUCCESS SO FAR. IF ANY ONE CAN HELP IT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED.
CLIFF



HI.

Please find below a request, first in English and then German.

Any help, suggestions , or contacts would be much appreciated.
CLIF.
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I write on behalf of contributors to the thread on PPRuNe (professional pilots rumour network , military section) which can be found on the internet by Googling either PPRuNe or cliffnemo. This is a thread that has now developed into various wartime pilots from all over the world describing their experiences during world war 11. The thread is called ‘ Gaining an R.A.F pilots brevet in W.W 11.’

Although we have tried to make contact with our opposite numbers in Germany , we have had no success and wonder if you could help us to contact either ex Luftwaffe aircrew or near relatives who would be good enough to share information with us. I would assure you that this is a very friendly site, and any ex Luftwaffe aircrew or airmen would be warmly welcomed, and any information appreciated.

I have been frequently informed that many historians obtain information from this thread, and have been asked by certain aircraft museums for permission to use extracts from the thread. Also I have been told that the thread contains a lot of information that does not appear in ,novels, biographies , or other records. I would , therefore, appeal to your organisation for help, and thank you in anticipation.

I would also point out that it may be of interest to current members of the Luftwaffe re the training of aircrew in England and America during the war, as this is described in detail.
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Ich schreibe im Namen des Web der PPRuNe (professional pilots rumor network, military section), welches im Internet bei Google oder cliffnemo unter PPRuNe gefunden werden kann. Das ist ein Forum, dass entwickelt wurde von verschiedenen Kriegspiloten aus aller Welt, um ihre Erlebnisse während des 2. Weltkrieges zu beschreiben. Die web Seite heißt "Gaining an R.A.F pilots brevet )in W.W.II"
(BREVET + FLUGEL ? )

Auch haben wir versucht mit gleichgesinnten aus Deutschland Kontakt aufzunehmen. Wir hatten keinen Erfolg und bitten Sie uns zu helfen entweder ex Besatzungsmitglieder der Luftwaffe oder andere Beteiligte zu kontaktieren, die bereit sind, Informationen mit uns auszutauschen. Ich kann Ihnen versichern, dass wir eine sehr freundliche Seite sind und jedes ehemalige Mitglied einer Luftwaffen Manschaft (Pilot, Besatzung, Ingenieure)wird herzlich aufgenommen und jede Information wird geschätzt.

Ich werde regelmäßig darüber informiert, dass viele Historiker Informationen durch unsere web Seite erlangen und wurde von verschiedenen Flugzeugmusen um die Erlaubnis gebeten, Ausschnitte aus der web Seite zu benutzen zu dürfen. Mir wurde auch mitgeteilt, dass in der web Seite viele Informationen enthalten sind, die nicht in Romanen, Biographien oder anderen Aufzeichnungen enthalten sind. Ich würde hierfür gerne auf Ihre Organisation für Hilfe verweisen und bedanke mich hierfür im Voraus.

Ich möchte hervorheben, dass es vielleicht interressant sein kann von den Mitgliedern der Luftwaffe, betreffend des gängigen Trainings der Besatzungen in England und Amerika während des Krieges eine detalierte Beschreibung zu erhalten.

VIELEN DANK. CLIFF.







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Old 5th February 2010, 15:42
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45

Hallo Cliff
ich glaube ich kann Ihnen mit 2 Adressen dienen.


Christoph Dezius
Kirchnebenstr. 22
65375 Oestrich-Winkel
06723-87422
ehemals Ltn. im JG 2

Heinz Borgmann
Mainz-Gonsenheim
Oranienhof
06131 - 9711940
ehermals Bordfunker im NJG 4

Beide sind hoch in den Achtzigern, aber geistig noch ganz ok.

Gruß Rüdiger
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Old 5th February 2010, 17:08
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45

Hallo Karsten Viel Dank. muss schreiben, da ich nicht das gute Deutsche sehr spreche. Ich bin 87 Jahre alt. Wissen Sie, wenn sie viel Englisch sprechen., ich konnten sie telefonieren Respekt Klippe
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45
Hallo Karsten Viel Dank. muss schreiben, da ich nicht das gute Deutsche sehr spreche. Ich bin 87 Jahre alt auch. Wissen Sie, wenn sie viel Englisch sprechen., ich konnten sie telefonieren Respekt Klippe = (CLIFF)
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Old 5th February 2010, 19:52
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45

Please post in English. This is not a German language forum except where posting original texts.
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Old 6th February 2010, 01:52
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45

I think placing personal addresses in a public forum is not correct. Why not send them via private message? Just my opinion.
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Old 6th February 2010, 10:42
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45

Sorry

but the questin was also made in german, so I have answerd in this language. It is more comfortable for me.

Mr.Borgmann was WOP in NJG 4
Mr. Dezius Pilot im JG 2

Gruß Rüdiger
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Old 6th February 2010, 10:54
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45

Sergio,

I agree and I think we agreed sometime ago not to list addresses here on the board, if you want to exchange them, you can do that per PM.

Ruy, do we have that mentioned in the forum rules?

Thanks,

John

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Old 6th February 2010, 12:37
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45

Sorry folks. Won't do it again, but a bit difficult to send a P.M until I can find some addresses.
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Re: LUFTWAFFE 39/45

yes santos you are correct personal things should be discuss via private msgs
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