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Old 22nd September 2018, 09:41
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Soviet aicraft type to be identified

Can someone identify the aircraft type?

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Old 22nd September 2018, 12:12
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified

Interesting photo. I'm guessing Soviet - only because of the front windscreen/aiming-tube arrangement. Perhaps a Polikarpov I-17. Didn't the prototype crash, resulting in Polikarpov's fall from Stalin's favour, and the cancellation (or lack of interest) in the promising I-180/185 line of fighters?


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Old 22nd September 2018, 12:21
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified

There is a red star clearly visible on the starboard wing, so there is no doubt it is a Soviet aircraft.
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Old 22nd September 2018, 12:30
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!!!!!
I was staring so intently at the cockpit/canopy area, I didn't even notice the very obvious star on the wing!!
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Old 22nd September 2018, 13:07
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified

I16 type12 , op1 early war gunsight.


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Old 22nd September 2018, 14:56
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified

If that wing belongs on that aircraft, as there seems to be too many bits and pieces for one. The lightweight construction on the windshield, lack of a centre screen and the telescopic sight all suggest something very early. The I-16 is pretty convincing.
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Old 22nd September 2018, 15:32
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified

Definitely not I-16. I-17 fits much better due to a sliding hood.

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Old 22nd September 2018, 15:36
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified

Early Polikarpov I-16s (Typ-5 and Typ-12) have front windshields that slide forward to open. This aircraft seems to have a fixed front windscreen and has a aft-sliding main canopy.


The Polikarpov I-180/185 series have fixed front windscreen, aft-sliding main canopy and triangular shape fixed rear canopy. The wing planform resembles the I-16 in general. It has a radial engine.


The I-17 has an in-line engine, fixed front windscreen, aft-sliding main canopy and no rear-canopy section. Can anyone see what's under the slid-back main canopy?


Alternately, do any late model I-16s have closing canopies?



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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified

Looking through my 1918 through 1945 Russian Air Force reference material, I can only identify two aircraft that had the very distinctive triangular front canopy shown in the photograph. The Polikarpov I-180, an I-16 with upgrades, but it did not have a sliding canopy. The Polikarpov 1-17 did have a sliding canopy, so that's my bet. All other Russian aircraft that I have had a flat panel at the front of the canopy!

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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified

It matches I-180 but not 100% sure, need to look some material as into the
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