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Old 22nd June 2009, 04:19
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Luftwaffe Aircraft Loss Reports?

Hi,

How do I find Luftwaffe Aircraft Loss Reports? I could also use the correct German spelling for these reports as well.

I've been to the US Archives, but have had no luck.

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Old 22nd June 2009, 13:19
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Re: Luftwaffe Aircraft Loss Reports?

Hi,

You will have to go to German....
Freiburg or Berlin.
If you need a especific day we can help you but the whole pack will be a hard work and it´s not complete and crowded of mistaken.For more detailed, please contact me.

e.arana@uol.com.br

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Old 22nd June 2009, 14:28
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Re: Luftwaffe Aircraft Loss Reports?

Or you can get the aircraft loss records of the General Quartiermeister 6. Abteilung on microfilm at the Imperial War Museum in London.
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Re: Luftwaffe Aircraft Loss Reports?

Hi.

I have them, either in digital form or scanned.

Contact me for specific questions

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Hi.

I have them, either in digital form or scanned.

Contact me for specific questions

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Andreas - I ve been trying to track down information on a Me 110 and Mustang mid air collision per Macr 4993 and J-1127. The "J" report describes the collision with a Me 110 Training flight...

Date of loss May 19, 1944 near Gardelegen, east of Mieste.

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Old 24th June 2009, 18:32
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Re: Luftwaffe Aircraft Loss Reports?

Maybe this?

Bf 110G-3, 5715, Hallauer, Uffz. Fridolin (F)/Walter, Gefr. Josef (Bf), I./F.A.G. 101,
19-May-44, Rammed by an enemy aircraft, Bf killed., Lfl. Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.51, bei Gardelegen, 100%, H
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Maybe this?

Bf 110G-3, 5715, Hallauer, Uffz. Fridolin (F)/Walter, Gefr. Josef (Bf), I./F.A.G. 101,
19-May-44, Rammed by an enemy aircraft, Bf killed., Lfl. Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.51, bei Gardelegen, 100%, H
John - that should be it!. What is the source/reference?

Lt Hudson Packard (parents had sense of humor) chased a "Do 217", last seen in 45 degree dive as both went into cloud deck..

Packard KIA and crashed at Mieste.. OS-I 357FS/355FG

None of the four 355FG Mid Air collisions with German fighters resulted in either a claim or award as the pilots were KIA without witness.

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Old 25th June 2009, 03:16
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The source is fiche volume BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779 - available from the Bundesarchiv in Germany.
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J-1127. The "J" report describes the collision with a Me 110 Training flight...
Hmmm..... I think the "J" report you referenced may be from the so-called Luftgau downed enemy aircraft report series held by the U.S. National Archives in WashDC. There are thousands and thousands of them and they are as below:

KU-1 to KU-3800 (Allied bombers, western, northern and central Europe);
Me-1 to Me-2963 (Allied aircraft Mediterranean theater);
KSU-43 to KSU-3658 (contents unclear);
USA-1000/1 to USA-1000/115 (contents unclear);
J-1 to J-3217 (Allied fighters, western, northern and central Europe) - these are to be found in Entries 1013 and 1014;
AV-1 to AV-2416 (contents unclear);
RUS-21 to RUS-6016 (downed Russian aircraft);
etc., etc.

These are all in NARA Record Group 242, Entries 1011 through 1039. Each number, i.e., J-1127, is a folder detailed the investigation of the downed Allied aircraft, eyewitness reports, recovery of remains, burial details, and many folders also contain dogtags, photos, letters and other personal possessions recovered from deceased airmen found in the wreckage.
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Re: Luftwaffe Aircraft Loss Reports?

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Hmmm..... I think the "J" report you referenced may be from the so-called Luftgau downed enemy aircraft report series held by the U.S. National Archives in WashDC. There are thousands and thousands of them and they are as below:

That is correct. I have cross referenced them against the Macrs of interest.

KU-1 to KU-3800 (Allied bombers, western, northern and central Europe);
Me-1 to Me-2963 (Allied aircraft Mediterranean theater);
KSU-43 to KSU-3658 (contents unclear);
USA-1000/1 to USA-1000/115 (contents unclear);
J-1 to J-3217 (Allied fighters, western, northern and central Europe) - these are to be found in Entries 1013 and 1014;
AV-1 to AV-2416 (contents unclear);
RUS-21 to RUS-6016 (downed Russian aircraft);
etc., etc.

These are all in NARA Record Group 242, Entries 1011 through 1039. Each number, i.e., J-1127, is a folder detailed the investigation of the downed Allied aircraft, eyewitness reports, recovery of remains, burial details, and many folders also contain dogtags, photos, letters and other personal possessions recovered from deceased airmen found in the wreckage.
Thanks - I did not know about the AV-1, RUS or USA series.
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