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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question
1719 is marked as D-1 /in fact as D1/ 1720 is a C-1, 1717 as B-1
1676 is a B-1 but then a big gap till 1690 a B-1, then a new gap till 1706 B-1 these gaps are quite big even if my list is far to be completed gen one could miss but not more, maybe a lot sent to Spain that failed to return I could send you my complete list for B nd D, I never found a A... On an other list where appears mostly the Knz , I could read at least 40 bf109 totally lost for 37/38 remi |
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question
Thank You Seaplane and Remi
I attach my home made Me 109A/B/C production list for all to see and comment. It is not easy to sit in your home sifting various experts statements in publications published. Just take the 109B-2! What was that and where is its production? Prien makes no committment and just says production was B and mentions no B-1 or B-2. Schick /Radinger mentions BOTH types, illustrate mostly B-2 but mentions ONLY B-1 in their production table! In their list the Spanish Bf 109B were B-1 but their photos ID each one as B-2... Seaplane ******* I haven't heard of any B-0, although they make sense! However I find a bit awkward to accept that production B-1 used later as prototypes V-9 and up would suddenly get a B-0 designation attached to them.It makes NO sense to start a batch of B-1 in Augsburg and all of a sudden call some of them B-0.... If you look at the production list, the ONLY two A that could possibly fit to make up the 22 listed in German docs are WNr 998-999. What do you think? Remi **** I am not sure what you mean with WNr 1719 is "marked" D1. Do you have a photo or document? Again your source please. To me it makes NO sense at all to have ONE SINGLE D-1 in the middle of a B-1 and C-1 batch.... Cheers Stig |
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question
i won't put to much effort in correctly matching Anton's WkNrs as for instance WkNr 884 is reffered to in several documents as a B...
My listing is much more complete and based on Losses, prodction doc, test doc from Mtt, FB and various other sources, and frankly there are a lot of inconsistencies between all those sources when it comes to the early variants. |
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question
source: -Flugzeugunfälle u. verluste bei schulen usw.1940-1944
-Statische zusammenstellung der unfälle 1936-1942 remi give me your mail adress I will send you the list, I hv no more space here to load it, By the way Mister moderator how to recover this space ??? |
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