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22nd September 2018, 09:41
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Soviet aicraft type to be identified
Can someone identify the aircraft type?
Thanks,
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Dénes Last edited by Dénes Bernád; 17th December 2019 at 21:21. 
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22nd September 2018, 12:12
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified
Interesting photo. I'm guessing Soviet - only because of the front windscreen/aiming-tube arrangement. Perhaps a Polikarpov I-17. Didn't the prototype crash, resulting in Polikarpov's fall from Stalin's favour, and the cancellation (or lack of interest) in the promising I-180/185 line of fighters?
...geoff
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- converting fuel into noise. Last edited by bearoutwest; 22nd September 2018 at 12:13. Reason: typo.
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22nd September 2018, 12:21
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified
There is a red star clearly visible on the starboard wing, so there is no doubt it is a Soviet aircraft.
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22nd September 2018, 12:30
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified
 !!!!!I was staring so intently at the cockpit/canopy area, I didn't even notice the very obvious star on the wing!!
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22nd September 2018, 14:56
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified
If that wing belongs on that aircraft, as there seems to be too many bits and pieces for one. The lightweight construction on the windshield, lack of a centre screen and the telescopic sight all suggest something very early. The I-16 is pretty convincing.
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22nd September 2018, 15:32
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified
Definitely not I-16. I-17 fits much better due to a sliding hood.
Matti
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22nd September 2018, 15:36
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified
Early Polikarpov I-16s (Typ-5 and Typ-12) have front windshields that slide forward to open. This aircraft seems to have a fixed front windscreen and has a aft-sliding main canopy.
The Polikarpov I-180/185 series have fixed front windscreen, aft-sliding main canopy and triangular shape fixed rear canopy. The wing planform resembles the I-16 in general. It has a radial engine. The I-17 has an in-line engine, fixed front windscreen, aft-sliding main canopy and no rear-canopy section. Can anyone see what's under the slid-back main canopy? Alternately, do any late model I-16s have closing canopies? ...geoff
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23rd September 2018, 00:12
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified
Looking through my 1918 through 1945 Russian Air Force reference material, I can only identify two aircraft that had the very distinctive triangular front canopy shown in the photograph. The Polikarpov I-180, an I-16 with upgrades, but it did not have a sliding canopy. The Polikarpov 1-17 did have a sliding canopy, so that's my bet. All other Russian aircraft that I have had a flat panel at the front of the canopy!
Vic
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24th September 2018, 13:25
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Re: Soviet aicraft type to be identified
It matches I-180 but not 100% sure, need to look some material as into the
canopy .
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