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Old 7th June 2006, 21:14
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Hi,

Is anyone going to the PRO in the next few days/weeks? I am carrying out some research for a workmate. His Grandmothers brother was lost on 25 October 1943 when the trawler he was on was sunk by an E-boat, S-74. There is an aircraft link to this so bear with me. On the night of 4-5/November 1943 while on mining operations off the Humber, S-74 was attcked and damaged by Beaufighters, there's the link.

Searching the PRO I found the following file ADM 267/118. In this file there are a number of files about various ships that were sunk by mines or torpedos.

So can someone look up the file 'ADM 267/118 William Stephen' and let me know if it contains any details of the trawler and its loss? Also how many pages there is. I don't want any copies but if it has the relevant details I can pass that on to my workmate and he can order them up.

Also does anyone know which squadron the Beaufighters were from and where they were based?

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Old 8th June 2006, 11:18
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Hi Alex

I should be able to help - possibly within the next couple of weeks, unless you get a better offer!!

Watch this space!

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Old 8th June 2006, 13:11
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I'm going to the National Archive in Kew later this month, and I'll study the material there for four or five days. Would you like me to look up the file in question for you?
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Old 8th June 2006, 20:53
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Hi Brian, Christer,

Thank you both for your kind offer to help, much appreciated. If both of you could fit it in to your visit I'll let the other one know who gets there first.

Do you know if its cheaper to order ORBs on CD? I've noticed the price per A3 paper copy has went up to 45p.

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Old 13th June 2006, 11:40
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Alex: According to CC IntSum, 254 Sqn attacked 4 E-boats in the North Sea 53.13N, 03.17E at 0732 hrs 5 Nov 43. This should make the task easier!
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Old 22nd June 2006, 20:03
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Hi Chris,

Thanks for the details. Sorry I missed the post. I'll see what details I can get from the ORB.

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Old 22nd June 2006, 23:37
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Hi again Alex,

Found someting back in my files:

8 Beaufighters of 254 Squadron were sent out to search for returning e-boats W of Den Helder. These e-boats had attacked convoy FN-1170 near Yarmouth.
As Chris already added 4 e-boats were attacked at 07.32 hrs at position 53.13N, 03.17E (40 miles W of Den Helder). Three were attacked with cannon and one of these, the S-74 of 92 tons, was set alight amidships.

During the attack Beaufighter LZ414 was shot down.

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Old 23rd June 2006, 11:47
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Hi Alex

I ran out of time to order the ADM file but should be back at the PRO next week, and will do so then. Sorry.

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Old 23rd June 2006, 21:45
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Hi Hans,

Thanks for the additional info, much appreciated.

Brian,

No problem.

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