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Old 20th October 2024, 23:30
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18 and 19 May 1940 over France

Hello,

What were the Luftwaffe losses on 18 and 19 May 1940 in France from 253 Squadron?

A Do 17 4.(F)/11 piloted by Fw W. Hamman lost near Seclin in aerial combat near Lille with a Hurricane from 253 Sqn ?

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Old 21st October 2024, 08:06
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Hello ,

I have this aircraft shot down by a fighter from N° 17 sqdn ?

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Re: 18 and 19 May 1940 over France

Good starting point would be claims:


18 May: 2 x He 111 dest one unconfirmed 1400hrs
Bf 110 & Do 215 dest, 2 x Do 215 unconfirmed, Bf 110
damaged 1615-1630hrs
19 May: He 111 dest He 111 dam 1200hrs
Bf 109 unconfirmed, Bf 109 damaged 1500hrs


Mindful of what was going on those days, inaccurate records etc things will be hard to tie down when you look at all the other claims for other squadrons on those days
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Old 21st October 2024, 13:18
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Re: 18 and 19 May 1940 over France

Hi,

Yes I agree. I also have this
On May 18, 1940 ...

4./KG76 Dornier Do17Z. Belly-landed near Wavre damaged in attacks by Hurricanes of No. 253 Squadron near Valenciennes 4.00 p.m. possibly one of those attacked by P/O Jenkins. Uffz G. Schmidt slightly injured in landing, admitted to hospital in Hohenlind. Rest of crew unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.

4./KG76 Dornier Do17Z. Forced-landed near Dinant damaged in attacks by Hurri- canes of No. 253 Squadron near Valenciennes 4.00 p.m. Possibly that attacked by P/O Clifton. Obergefr E. Preiser slightly wounded, admitted to field hospital in Tirlemont. Aircraft a write-off.
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Re: 18 and 19 May 1940 over France

Which matches time-wise with the second combat that day. It appears you have access to BofF T&N which is probably as good as you are going to get
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Old 21st October 2024, 19:22
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Re: 18 and 19 May 1940 over France

I appreciate your help
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Re: 18 and 19 May 1940 over France

Based on "The Battle over France then and now" by Peter D. Cornwell,

"4./(F)/11 Dornier Do 17. Believed that shot down by F/L. Toyne. P/O Wilson and F/O Adye of No. 17 Squadron during reconnaissence sortie between Hazebroickand Lille. Hammann killed.

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Hello ,

I have this :
18/05/1940
4.(F) A.Gr. 11
Seclin southeast of Lille France .
Shot down y fighters 17.Sq (17:00)
Do 17
Uffz. Hammann, Walter KIA - Oblt. Dolega-Kozierowski, Oskar KIA - Fw. Wiegand, Konrad KIA
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