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Old 25th June 2020, 11:19
BruceMk11 BruceMk11 is offline
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F/O JD Wallis, 451 Sqn

His claim for a Bf 109 gets mentioned twice in the entry for the 23/4/44 in MAW 4, and is listed in the breakdown of claims.

However, the victory was actually shared with W/C EJ 'Teddy' Morris, Wing Leader, No. 251 Wing.

John Desmond Wallis (A408541) was killed 14/1/45.
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Old 25th June 2020, 17:53
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Re: F/O JD Wallis, 451 Sqn

Bruce,

Well spotted. Aces High does indeed show the half share for Morris, which is clearly indicated in the 451 ORB. Previously, Frank Olynyk had also shown Wallis with a full claim in his excellent RAF 400 Series Squadron Credits, etc. which seems to have carried over into MAW4.

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Old 26th June 2020, 03:36
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Re: F/O JD Wallis, 451 Sqn

Hi Chaps

Wg Cdr Morris led four Spitfires on 451 Sqns first patrol from Corsica. The form 540 says Wallis shot down the 109. The 541 says Morris attacked aircraft three times. It does not say he hit any. It also says Wallis then shot down a 109. The CR for Wallis is in 451 Appendices, currently free to down load or read from the Nat Archives in London, its on page 494 and 495. Here is the essence of the narrative. He saw four FW 190s, and followed his NO 1 into attack. The No 1 was Morris. Morris reported a single 109 at 5 o'clock to Wallis who did a steep right turn, got on its tail and shot it down. Wallis does not mention any one else shooting at it. The report notes this action was seen by three other pilots, that is the rest of the formation including Morris. I suggest Morris made three attacks on various FW 190s without result, also warned Wallis of the 109 and then watched as Wallis shot down the 109. Thus my biased view is MAW 4 is right as was Frank in not splitting the claim between Wallis and Morris, and Chris got it wrong in Aces High. Having talked to Chris on the phone 12 hours ago I could have mentioned this to him, but I had not seen the posting then. Frank may comment if he wishes.

Apologies for the double post of the incident in the book, a editing error we all missed at the time.

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Re: F/O JD Wallis, 451 Sqn

Thanks for the detailed explanation Russell. I've only recently chased up a copy of MAW 4, so going over the RAAF claims atm.
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Old 26th June 2020, 22:00
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Re: F/O JD Wallis, 451 Sqn

Russell,

My thanks as well for the clarification.

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