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Old 21st July 2012, 12:07
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Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

Hi,

Can anyone provide details over the loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser who was killed over Odessa on the 18th November 1943 - flying a recon mission?

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Old 21st July 2012, 12:49
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

Hi Rick,

3.(F)/A.Gr. 121 crashed Odessa with a Ju 88 D-1 serial 280024
Ltn. Georg Strasser
(B) Ofw. Theodor Hubert
(Bf) Gefr. Karl Tovar
(Bs) Uffz. Herbert Fliegner

all killed

source GQM files

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Old 21st July 2012, 13:42
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

I could be wrong, but the W.Nr. indicates this would be an early production Ju 188 F-1.

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Old 21st July 2012, 14:14
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

Hi,

Thanks for information but was there a cause for crash - combat or was it a flying accident?

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Old 21st July 2012, 14:17
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

NVM gives Ju 188F-1 and no cause for the loss.

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Old 22nd July 2012, 12:41
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

The unit was based in Odessa then. Odessa was <100km away from the frontline. Therefore a direct combat loss is highly unlikely.
So, an educated guess says that it was either a fatal landing mishap (maybe due to Falk or fighter damage) or an also deadly takeoff accident.
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Old 22nd July 2012, 14:25
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

It maybe crashed after damages received during recce flight to SE corner of the Black Sea. 35.IAP PVO (Batum region of Air Defence) claimed 1 Ju88 - intercepted off Kobuleti and after long pursuing, according to pilot's reports, aircraft fell in the water in 170 km west of Batum. It seems fighters broke pursuing due to fuel shortage, and a/c crashed off Odessa really.

What is the time of the accident according to NVM? Initial time of interception 12:10 msc (10:10 German)
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Old 22nd July 2012, 16:03
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

Unfortunately the NVM contains no time info.

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Old 22nd July 2012, 16:47
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Georg Strasser - 18.11.1943 over Odessa

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Unfortunately the NVM contains no time info.

Matti
Thank you, Matti.

About type of the aircraft. It seems NVM data correct, and it was Ju188, not Ju88 as in GQM. According to Kriegsmarine documents, from the end of Oct.43 two Ju188 were used by Luftwaffe for recce flights along Caucasus coast.

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