Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 13th May 2013, 16:37
musec04 musec04 is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,315
musec04 is on a distinguished road
Unidentified French Aircraft - Photo

Hello All,

Currently on ebay at http://www.ebay.de/itm/Von-Wehrmacht...#ht_1055wt_960 is a pphoto of a captured french aircraft, of at least to me, an unknown type. Can anyone identify this machine?

Regards,

Clint
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 15th May 2013, 00:00
CJE's Avatar
CJE CJE is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bordeaux (France)
Posts: 1,409
CJE
Re: Unidentified French Aircraft - Photo

It was our most secret weapon: a twin-seat fighter that would kill the German pilots in making themselves laugh to death.

More seriously, I have no idea but would suggest it was one of the numerous one-off sport airplanes built by some fanatic air-minded engeneer.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 15th May 2013, 23:03
Larry Larry is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Middlesex, England
Posts: 914
Larry is on a distinguished road
Re: Unidentified French Aircraft - Photo

I thought it looked a bit like a Messerschmitt M23
__________________
Larry Hayward

Last edited by Larry; 15th May 2013 at 23:42.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 16th May 2013, 12:37
CJE's Avatar
CJE CJE is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bordeaux (France)
Posts: 1,409
CJE
Re: Unidentified French Aircraft - Photo

Hi Larry,

The question was asked on a French forum and it seems it was a Farman F-233 (Gipsy I of 95 hp), ex-F-ALGU, or a F-238 (Gipsy III of 105 hp).
When war broke out in September 1939, all civilian aircraft were impressed into Armée de l'Air service and used for training or liaison purposes.

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 16th May 2013, 12:46
musec04 musec04 is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,315
musec04 is on a distinguished road
Re: Unidentified French Aircraft - Photo

Hello Chris,

Thanks for your assistance both here and on Aeroforums. A follow up question, if I may. You state that all french civilian aircraft were impressed and I note for example that in Henri Lacaze's Morane-Saulnier ses Avions, ses projets that the author states on P.172 , that an MS 302 and a MS 309 were requisitioned in 1939. Is there a list published anywhere showing which french civilian aircraft were impressed in 1939/40?

Regards,

Clint
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 16th May 2013, 12:51
CJE's Avatar
CJE CJE is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bordeaux (France)
Posts: 1,409
CJE
Re: Unidentified French Aircraft - Photo

Unfortunately, I don't think so.
In the French Air Force, most of them were given "matricules militaires", but we still look for a complete list.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
losses jagdwaffe September 6th 1943 in the West kris99 Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 3rd January 2013 09:46
Unidentified Aircraft photo #1-Mosquito kaki3152 Allied and Soviet Air Forces 5 18th August 2007 18:18
Fighter pilots chicken? Hawk-Eye Allied and Soviet Air Forces 7 26th March 2005 13:17
Luftwaffe fighter losses in Tunisia Christer Bergström Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 47 14th March 2005 04:03
Seeking *reliable* sources for French AF ops 1936-June 1940 lritger Allied and Soviet Air Forces 28 24th February 2005 18:56


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:32.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net