Hans Hahn/Maximilian Stotz

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Originally Posted by Nokose

11 August 1942
07:21-08:07 3 LaGG-3 of 21 IAP and 4 LaGG-3 from 193 IAP at an altitude of 2000 m patrolled in the area of Timofeevo (to Zubtsov?). They were attacked by 6 Bf 109 in which LaGG-3 (1099) pilot Solov’ev (rank and first name?) and LaGG-3 (3331) pilot Losev (rank and first name?). The 193 IAP had a LaGG-3 Glagolev (rank and first name?) was damaged in the air battle and made an emergency landing at Denesikha, were the aircraft was wrecked but pilot was unharmed.

Obfw Maximilian Stotz 4/JG 54 LaGG-3 (67) at 06:41 PlQu 47842 at 2000 m (area of Zubtsov.
Fw. Heinrich Wefers 4./JG 54 LaGG-3 (26) at 06:48 PlQu 47534 at 1500 m (area of Timofeevo)

On the Loss Records, could only find reference for one pilot, Starshina Viktor Alekseevich Losev, Mia.

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Originally Posted by Nokose

11 August 1942
07:21-08:07 3 LaGG-3 of 21 IAP and 4 LaGG-3 from 193 IAP at an altitude of 2000 m patrolled in the area of Timofeevo (to Zubtsov?). They were attacked by 6 Bf 109 in which LaGG-3 (1099) pilot Solov’ev (rank and first name?) and LaGG-3 (3331) pilot Losev (rank and first name?). The 193 IAP had a LaGG-3 Glagolev (rank and first name?) was damaged in the air battle and made an emergency landing at Denesikha, were the aircraft was wrecked but pilot was unharmed.

Obfw Maximilian Stotz 4/JG 54 LaGG-3 (67) at 06:41 PlQu 47842 at 2000 m (area of Zubtsov.
Fw. Heinrich Wefers 4./JG 54 LaGG-3 (26) at 06:48 PlQu 47534 at 1500 m (area of Timofeevo)

Hi Michael,
About the pilot Solov'ev, being lost on that date, nothing comes up on the Loss Reports.
Does the Combat Report say he was lost, and how?
If so, in the following days entries is there any mention of him returning to unit? If so there is the (possible) reason for him not being mentioned in the Loss Reports.
But again, I may have missed something.....

[kirche]

Starshiy leytenant Glagolev Stefan Afanasyevich

Denesikha

Denisikha

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Originally Posted by kirche

Denisikha

Is this the one located some 55km N of Rzhev?

[kirche]

Originally Posted by @irnimal

Is this the one located some 55km N of Rzhev?

Paulo,
Michael correctly named, I was wrong - this is Denesikha of the Staritsky district, north of Rzhev, not far from Lukovnikovo. There were 3 VA airfields in that area.

Pilot Solovyov, I can not accurately identify - he arrived with new aircraft on 21 IAP 07/29/1942. I flew a little. He made an emergency landing again after the battle on September 27, 1942, where he was wounded. He probably flew as a wingman in pairs - the rank is probably sergeant. Perhaps he was transferred to another regiment later.

[kirche]

Hello Paolo,
Pilot Solovyov, listed as not returning from a combat mission, arrived at 21 IAP on 12.08.1942. The plane crashed during an emergency landing, made due to damage in a dogfight. (Operational report dated 15.08.1942)

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Since the above talk is focused on 11 August, I'll provide some more info about this day.
In terms of aerial claims/losses, it was not a busy day in the air.
So, in the Rzhev area, apart from the fighters mentioned above, 3 VA had the following losses (according with the Loss Reports I've been able to review so far) :
- [6 GShAP, 264 ShAD] Starshiy Politruk Pavel Platonovich Logvinenko, Mia
- [6 GShAP, 264 ShAD] Starshiy Serzhant Stanislav Antonovich Voytsekhovich, Mia
- [235 ShBP, 264 ShAD] Starshiy Serzhant Aleksey Mitrofanovich Evtushenko, Mia
All 3 lost in the Timofeevo area (some 4km N of Rzhev), Tver Oblast.
- [451 ShAP, 264 ShAD] Starshiy Serzhant Petr Gordeevich Mazur, KIA when hit by Flak, N of Rzhev.
Since I haven't been able to check any Combat Reports, these are only the Personnel losses I've been able to find. In terms of material losses there may have been more losses, or not.
From 1 VA, 224 ShAD also lost one Il-2, but so far haven't ben able to confirm this one.

According to Tony Wood's list, there was only one claim for a Il-2, [5/JG 51] Uffz. Wüitsch [sic], at 14h10.
Since I don't have time for the Soviet units missions, cannot say if any of these losses can be linked to this claim.

Hans Beisswenger claimed 2x Pe-2 that I haven't been, so far, able to link to any losses.

As far as claims against fighters, other than the above mentioned ones, Max Stotz and Paul Finkler claimed 2 each during another mission, and during another mission Joachim Wandel claimed a Yak-1. All these in the Rzhev area. Still haven't found any data to link with these claims.

Another claim was made in the Kozel'sk area (Kaluga Oblast) by [5/JG 51] Ofw. Wilhelm Mink, for MiG-3.
The data is confusing here. 168 IAP (LaGG-3) lost Mladshiy Leytenant Evgeniy Georgievich Serebryakov, Mia in that area. The confusing part is that I've only found reference of him in one confusing Loss Report that those not provide a loss date. From a couple of different sources the loss date is given as the 11 or 16 August.
He had been ou
on a Recon mission, spotted a lone Fw.189 and while attacking it, he was himself attacked by 4 Bf.109s. Shot one down and apparently rammed a second. Bailed out but, accordance to ground witnesses, the Fw.189 dove down on him and severed his parachute cords.
Depending on the real loss date, this one could be linked (or not) to Mink's claim.
Hope everyone finds this interesting and helpful.

Paulo

[Nokose]

Cautiously posting on this thread but wanting to list again on Maximilian Stotz’ s claims.
On 03 December 1942 he made a claim in the Staraya Russa area in which he “shot down” a Yak-1 (101) at 12:30 at PlQu 2814. No one was shot down by Stotz at that time.

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Originally Posted by Nokose

Cautiously posting on this thread but wanting to list again on Maximilian Stotz’ s claims.
On 03 December 1942 he made a claim in the Staraya Russa area in which he “shot down” a Yak-1 (101) at 12:30 at PlQu 2814. No one was shot down by Stotz at that time.

Hi Michael, do you know the time for the mission in which Aleksey Kulikov (42 IAP) was lost?

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Originally Posted by @irnimal

Hi Michael, do you know the time for the mission in which Aleksey Kulikov (42 IAP) was lost?

Yes, I have the mission time but holding on to it for now as I will be working it into my Biography for Beisswenger.

As far as the time on the Eastern Front, they kept Summer time the same from 22 June 1942 until it ended in 1942. So 1 hour difference that whole time. On the end of Summer time in 1942 it changed back and was 2 hours difference. It would afterwards go back to 1 hour in the Summer time and back to 2 hours on ending for the remainder of the war.