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Old 15th January 2017, 14:22
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Loss of Bf 109E-7 of 3.Erg/JG2 on 17th July 1941

On 17th July 1941 3.Erg/JG2 lost a Bf 109E-7 (Werk Number not known), which failed to return from a sortie, presumably over Cherbourg area?

Can anyone add any further details of the pilot and the circumstances?
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Re: Loss of Bf 109E-7 of 3.Erg/JG2 on 17th July 1941

Larry: they lost 3 Bf 109s on 17 Jul 41 off Cherbourg-Lt Wolfgang Flügel missing, Uffz Werner Haase & Uffz Helmuth Augustin rescued
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Re: Loss of Bf 109E-7 of 3.Erg/JG2 on 17th July 1941

Thanks Chris; any idea of the time of combat?
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Re: Loss of Bf 109E-7 of 3.Erg/JG2 on 17th July 1941

234 Sqn made 4 claims in that area at approx 1645.

Source,RAF fighter command victory claims of WWII.(Foreman)

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Re: Loss of Bf 109E-7 of 3.Erg/JG2 on 17th July 1941

Larry: PM probably matching with Schneider's claim for your Blenheim
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Re: Loss of Bf 109E-7 of 3.Erg/JG2 on 17th July 1941

Thanks Chris,

The Blenheim was shot down at 15.10 hrs and last transmissions from it suggested the turret gunner was firing back at something, said to a stray barrage balloon on the sea, but I wondered if by chance it it was a Bf 109. Now that seems unlikely.
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Re: Loss of Bf 109E-7 of 3.Erg/JG2 on 17th July 1941

Chris,

"Uffz Werner Haase & Uffz Helmuth Augustin rescued"

For which unit did they flew ??

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Re: Loss of Bf 109E-7 of 3.Erg/JG2 on 17th July 1941

Hello Rémi,

Uffz Haase and Uffz Augustin flew for 1. ErgGr./JG 2 (= 1. (Eins.)Erg./JG 2).
The ErgGr./JG 2 included two Staffeln, there was no 3. Erg/JG 2.

On 16 August 1941 Uffz Helmuth Augustin was shot down by a Spitfire and killed in his Bf 109 E-7 5978 North of Colombey.

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Thks, but what about details for 17.April for them ??
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