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Old 25th September 2011, 20:31
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Information concerning Loss of Hauptmann Ignaz Prestele - 04.05.1942 over England?

Hi,

Can anyone provide details over this officer?

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Old 25th September 2011, 21:02
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Re: Information concerning Loss of Hauptmann Ignaz Prestele - 04.05.1942 over England?

1942-05-04, Stab I/JG 2, Bf 109F-4, 8404, 6 km östlich Cap D'Antifer, Absturz infolge Feindbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Hptm Prestele, Ignaz, tot
Hptm Prestele Gruppenkommandeur
Grab: Champigny-St.André/Frankreich, Block 19, Grab 51

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Old 25th September 2011, 21:37
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Re: Information concerning Loss of Hauptmann Ignaz Prestele - 04.05.1942 over England?

Thanks.

Can someone confirm if he was killed in combat over France or Channel

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Old 26th September 2011, 08:05
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Re: Information concerning Loss of Hauptmann Ignaz Prestele - 04.05.1942 over England?

According to NVM it was Feindflug.

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Old 26th September 2011, 08:51
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Re: Information concerning Loss of Hauptmann Ignaz Prestele - 04.05.1942 over England?

Looking into our officer career database, we have:

PRESTELE, Ignaz (“Igel”).
(n.d.) with the Legion Condor.
30.09.39 St.Fw. in 2./JG 53, shot down by a RAF Fairey Battle in the Saarbrücken-Merzig area.
01.11.39 Oblt., in I./JG 53.
14.05.40 Oblt. in 1./JG 53.
22.08.40 Hptm., appt Staka 2./JG 53 (to 20.11.41).
05.41 Staka 2./JG 53.
24.06.41 Hptm., appt acting Kdr. I./JG 53 (to 01.07.41).
07.08.41 appt Staka 2./JG 53.
20.11.41 Hptm., appt Kdr. I./JG 2 (to 04.05.42).
04.05.42 KIA – shot down into the sea off Cape d’Antifer by a Spitfire.

Tom Kracker's notes say:
Prestele, Ignatz "Igel" Hptm 10 victories - Legion Condor, 2./JG-53 (9/39 Wiesbaden-Erbenheim), Stfkpt 2/JG-53 (6/41), Kdr I/JG-2 (12/41) Bf 109D & E-3 (10/39), Fw 190A-2 (3/42), Bf 109F-4 Werk # 8404 "Black 2" (lost 5/4/42) Spanish Cross, EP, EK 1 & 2, Fighter Operational Clasp KIA 4 May, 1942 in aerial combat with fighters in Werk # 8404, off Cape d' Antifer, north of Octeville. 4 victories in Spain. One known victory, his 1st, a Fesselballon, 20 September, 1939. A 2nd Fesselballon on 25 September, 1939. His 3rd, a Battle at Saarbrücken on 30 September, 1939. His 4th, a Battle S of Sedan on 14 May, 1940. His 5th, a Hurricane over England on 8 September, 1940. His 6th, a Spitfire 10 km S of London on 15 September, 1940. His 7th & 8th, both Hurricanes S of London on 29 September, 1940. His 1st Soviet victory, a "Douglas" NW od Laczopski on 22 June, 1941. Another, a Hampden into the Sea off Holland on 12 February, 1942. Magnus, 16 victories.

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Old 26th September 2011, 23:35
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Re: Information concerning Loss of Hauptmann Ignaz Prestele - 04.05.1942 over England?

List of Prestele claims per published sources:

Prestele, Ignaz, Ofw., 30-Dec-37, 1., , J/88, I-16 Rata, -, -, 1., 96, , yes, Ries, Legion Condor, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Ofw., 05-Jan-38, 1., , J/88, I-16 Rata, -, -, 2., 98, , yes, Ries, Legion Condor, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Ofw., 07-Feb-38, 1., , J/88, SB-2, -, -, 3., 110, , yes, Ries, Legion Condor, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Ofw., 10-Mar-38, 1., , J/88, Curtiss, -, -, 4., 132, , yes, Ries, Legion Condor, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, StFw., 20-Sep-39, 2., I., JG 53, Fesselballon, -, 07.45, 1., 7, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Prestele, Ignaz, StFw., 25-Sep-39, 2., I., JG 53, Fesselballon, -, -, 2., 12, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Prestele, Ignaz, Stfw., 30-Sep-39, 2., I., JG 53, Battle, westlich Saarbrücken, 11.53, 3., 15, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock, 150 Sq.
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 14-May-40, 1., I., JG 53, Battle, südlich Sedan, 16.55, 4., 63, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 08-Sep-40, 2., I., JG 53, Hurricane, -, 13.25, 5., 124, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 15-Sep-40, 2., I., JG 53, Hurricane, -, 15.55, 6., 136, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 29-Sep-40, 2., I., JG 53, Hurricane, südlich London: 3000m, 17.25, 7., 140, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 29-Sep-40, 2., I., JG 53, Hurricane, -, 17.38, 8., 145, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 22-Jun-41, 2., I., JG 53, Douglas, nordwestlich Laczopki: 2000m, 17.30, 9., 161, , yes, C.2035/II, Anerk: ASM, Prien/Bock,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 24-Jun-41, 2., I., JG 53, DB-3, -, 15.15, 10., 173, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 27-Jun-41, 2., I., JG 53, DB-3, -, 12.45, 11., 185, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 06-Jul-41, 2., I., JG 53, DB-3, -, 16.20, 12., 191, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 06-Jul-41, 2., I., JG 53, DB-3, -, 16.21, 13., 192, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 12-Jul-41, 2., I., JG 53, DB-3, -, 10.50, 14., 224, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 25-Jul-41, 2., I., JG 53, DB-3, Starischtsche, 16.40, 15., 244, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Oblt., 03-Aug-41, 2., I., JG 53, V-11, östlich Perwomajsk, 14.50, 16., 276, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Prestele, Ignaz, Hptm., 12-Feb-42, Stab I., I., JG 2, Hampden, vor Holland, -, ., -, , no?, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. -, , not listed in Prien/Bock

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