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Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
I have now seen two photographs of aircraft from this unit (and which was carried forward to III./StG 1) with diagonal inscriptions on the nose. One shows J9+MH with -LeeOnSolent- which refers to the attack on 16 Aug 40 and another which appears to be J9+C (or G) H with what appears to be -Boulogne-. Can anyone throw any light onto this?
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Re: Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
There is at least another one... Isle of Wig(h)t.
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Re: Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
Just a guess but could these be an indication of the aircrafts first operational flight?
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Re: Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
Isle of Wight would match with III./StG 1's attack on 8 Aug 40 so it looks like each aircraft was named after an attack. Wonder when Boulogne was the target?
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Re: Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
Other target inscritions from the WC were:
Bill of Portland Arras and from the PC: Ostrow Hexenschlucht (near Gdingen)
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Best regards Gerhard Stemmer |
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Re: Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
Hi Chris,
24.5.40 08.29-10.20 hrs English warships off Boulogne. Regards Robert |
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Re: Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
Thanks Gerhard and Robert
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Re: Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
23 and 24 May seem like a strong candidates, judging by these ULTRA intercepts (source: TNA HW 5/1):
CX/FJ/95 8. At 1500 22/5 it was learnt at Fl. Korps VIII that by orders from a higher source there was to be no air attack on Boulogne. (B) CX/FJ/96 T23 55. [pencilled in margin: 1040/23] German aircraft reported that at 08.30 GMT on 23/5 English troops were landing at Boulogne. Stuka attacks on the landing place before 1100 GMT were urgently demanded. (A) T12 61. [1130/23] At 09.30 GMT on 23/5 heavy fighters were ordered to provide continuous protection over the area Boulogne – St. Omer, the centre of operations to be Boulogne. (A) CX/FJ/97 [1700/23] T2 14. An urgent demand was sent out at 1600 GMT on 23/5 that strong attacks against men-of-war, and disembarkation centre at Boulogne, Calais and Étaples were required immediately. (A) CX/FJ/98 14. [2205/23] On 23/5 I./JG 21 had 20 Me 109 E. It gave fighter protection for Stuka attack on Boulogne. It claimed to have shot down 1 Spitfire. (A) T4 [2354/23] 19. I./JG 21 was to protect Stuka 1 over Montreuil. Start at 03.35 GMT, on 24/5. It was also to protect Stuka which were going to attack ships in Boulogne harbour. The whole group was to take part. (A) 20. [2250/23] Stuka 2 and 77 (Fliegerkorps VIII) attacked Boulogne harbour and Le Portel on evening 23/5. Heavy AA fire. Pilots claimed direct hit on battleship, on a destroyer with red number at bow, and 5 transports certainly sunk. (A) |
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Re: Inscriptions on 1.(St)/186 Stukas
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Coincidentally, I have been looking around to find as many examples as I can of similarly named Ju 87s. I am not certain when the practice started but the names I have found are certainly 'battle honours' from the Poland Campaign through to the Mediterranean Campaign. This means that they cover 'honours' for the original 4./186 through to its final iteration of III./StG 1. Photographic evidence can be found on other forums but I am not sure if anyone has ever tried to pull this all together. We need to bear in mind that these are the German names for the selected targets. So far I have found: ‘Hexenschlucht’ and ‘Ostrow’ (from the Poland Campaign with 4./186) ‘Boulogne’ (from the France Campaign with I./186) ‘Lee on Solent’ and ‘Themse’ (from attacks on Britain by III./StG 1) ‘Sollum’ (from the Mediterranean Campaign with III./StG 1) You and I have previously discussed whether another aircraft carried 'Hela' (the Polish Naval Base at Hel - 'Hela' in German), which was a regular target for 4./186 in the Poland Campaign and where the Staffel enjoyed considerable success.
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Best wishes Tim O. Looking for any information or documents relating to: Alfred Schmittka 5./KG 54; Josef Harmeling 4.(Schlacht)/LG 2; Wilhelm Gaul 1./106, 2./906 & III./KG 40; Karl Müller I./KG 2; Werner Breese 5.(F)/122 |
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