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Old 18th September 2020, 02:55
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Emblem on a Storch

Hi guys,

Does anybody recognise this unit emblem? It was on a Storch that landed near 29.Inf.Div. (XXXXVII. Panzerkorps, Panzergruppe 2, Heeresgruppe Mitte) in early August 1941. I can't find anything similar here:
https://www.wwiidaybyday.com/emblems...blems2main.htm

And although I have quite a few pics of the plane, it's call-sign doesn't appear in any of them. [Edit: I found a B/W pic and have added it.]

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Old 18th September 2020, 14:12
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

Hi Jason

It looks like the emblem of 4.(F)/AGr.14
look here: https://asisbiz.com/luftwaffe/aufklg14.html

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Old 18th September 2020, 18:07
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

It's the night watchman from Eschwege, used as emblem by 5.(H)/23 during 1941 in Central Russia. The unit code of the Storch was 6K+PN.
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Old 19th September 2020, 15:30
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

Hi Merlin

I'm doubting.
The city emblem of Eschwege looks different.
Can you show the emblem of 5.(H)/AGr.23 ?

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Old 19th September 2020, 16:17
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

5.(H)/Aufkl.Gr. 23 in early August 1941:
16.7.41: 6 of the Staffel’s ground personnel killed and 6 more wounded during enemy air attack on Fp. Orsha.
11.8.41: based at Smolensk-South under Gruppenfliegerstab 31 in support of XXXXVII Motorized Corps.
20.9.41: ordered to Shatalovka/East by Luftflotte 2 for assignment to II. Fliegerkorps.
[Sources: AFHRA Maxwell decimal Karlsruhe Collection KC-Kl13.309-3/ v.1; NARA WashDC: RG 242 (T-77 roll 922/909); (T-313 roll 85/898); PRO London: AIR 40/1979 and 1982; PRO London: HW 5/31; BA-MA Freiburg: RL 2 III Meldungen über Flugzeugunfälle…..(Loss Reports – LRs); BA-MA Freiburg: Flugzeug-Bereitstellungen (Aircraft Availability Status Reports – FzB) in: M.Holm-website (ww2.dk)].

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Old 19th September 2020, 19:02
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

It's not the city emblem of Eschwege but the "Dietemann" a symbol figur of the town.
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Old 19th September 2020, 22:48
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

Here is an image of the Dietemann.


https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dieteman....c100930.m5375


I am also not convinced about the emblem interpretation. The asisbiz link shows the Baron Münchhausen holding a telescope and sitting on a cannon ball emblem. This is identified as the emblem of 4.(F)/Aufkl.Gr 14. Page 135 of Luftwaffe Emblems by Barry Ketley.

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Old 21st September 2020, 04:34
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

Hi. Definitely has all the key characteristics of the Münchhausen emblem of 4(F)14 even if some of the finer details are a bit unclear.
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Old 26th September 2020, 20:48
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

Hi Jason,

Could you kindly post a couple of other photos of the Fi-156 showing the emblem, however distant or faint? It might help clear up the interpretation.

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Old 27th September 2020, 18:28
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Re: Emblem on a Storch

Any one who has the book 'Emblem der Luftwaffe Band 1 by Urbanke Petrick Stemmer Balke' will know that this emblem is without a doubt
5.(H)Auf.Kl.Gr. 23. Buy the book and look at page 111.
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