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Old 18th January 2006, 13:31
Andrey Dikov Andrey Dikov is offline
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Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

At first – a small announcement about AIR MAG HORS-SÉRIE No.3 (French Air Magazine):

http://www.aerostories.org/~aerobibl...d_article=1138

There a research work of Dmitriy Karlenko and Vlad Antipov about combats between Luftwaffe and Soviet AFs during Battle for Kharkov in 1942 was published.

And there is a big fly in the barrel of this honey: in this issue a name of Vlad Antipov, a co-author, was missed at all.

Vladislav Antipov had made a thorough archive research for this book in TsVMA (Podolsk), which let the story to be reconstructed with a help of Soviet operational documents never seen before on public. As far as Vlad was a fullright co-author of the work, and Dmitry Karlenko clearly informed the publisher about this fact, such a negligence is just outrageous.

It’s just a pure authorship rights and copyright violation. I don’t think it's acceptable in Europe.

TOCH is a public place for Luftwaffe and other aviation researchers and we should know about such sad facts.

Vlad is my friend and I think I should tell about that. I hope I haven't offended innocents.
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Old 18th January 2006, 14:29
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

Andrey:

Has Vlad contacted the publisher or his co-author to ask about this?
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Old 18th January 2006, 14:50
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

Vlad is not good enough in English to communicate with foreigners fluently, so as far as I he told me the story, he haven't asked.

But Dmitriy Karlenko really asked, and they told him that they "are sorry" and in some next issue that "misprint" will be mentioned.

But I still think it's not equal things.

I'm researcher and author myself and I would be VERY insulted by such treatment.

I don't know, what would they do if Vlad would be western researcher. Reprint the issue? Stamp it additionally? I don't think there were any precedents.
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Old 19th January 2006, 10:33
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

It is very unpleasant incident, indeed.
Due to this mistake I can lost the co-author and partner, but to get mistrust and bad reputation.
Now I try to communicate with publisher, however all my messages come back for the unknown "technical" reason...
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Old 19th January 2006, 11:22
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

Hi,

I had similar problems several years ago, the publisher ( after being 'threatened' with legal action ) sent loose leaf flyers to the main retail outlets for the book and attached a sticker inside the books they had in stock. Reprints appeared correctly!

HTH

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Old 19th January 2006, 22:35
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

This 'oversight' by the Publisher is outrageous, to say the least. I know it myself, as I am upset even when they omit to include the proper diacritical (accent) marks on my name, let alone forgetting a co-author altogether.

However, let me point out, this is not the first time this particular French Publisher has problems with the authors' names. In their 1st 'Hors-Série' book, on the Bf 109 in Rumanian colours, they forgot to include some of the co-authors as well. Not to mention the many mislabelled and wrongly credited photos. And none of the co-authors ended up on the cover!

I fully sympathise with Vlad (and Dmitriy), and I think this matter should be pushed further until a compromise solution would be found (as David mentioned, for example). That's the least the Publisher can do.
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Old 20th January 2006, 00:33
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

Denes, Dmitriy, Vlad, perhaps we should start a club?
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Old 20th January 2006, 01:58
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

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Denes, Dmitriy, Vlad, perhaps we should start a club?
A club of what?
Will you be part of it?
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Old 20th January 2006, 05:23
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation


Franek, I think that the sarcasm in this case is inappropriate.
But a member of this "club" can be only the onewho writes books and is engaged in a history.

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My English not so good. But I think you understand that I want to tell
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Old 20th January 2006, 12:42
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Re: Kharkov-42... and authorship rights violation

Sarcasm absolutely justified. My article was also published there without my name.
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