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Old 8th April 2019, 08:21
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RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

Hi All,

I am researching a RAF DAKOTA crash in my region, period Market garden.

What I know:
- no KIA's
- 3 evaders
- +6 POW's (the a/c did not make it to the DZ)
- environment Turnhout, Dessel, Retie, Mol (Belgium)

a/c is not mentionned inthe 'aviation safety network database'.

Is there a list available from the missing RAF Dakota's?

best regards,
Wim
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Old 9th April 2019, 03:14
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

Hello Win,
I am not sure, but if I remember correctly, the Losses were discussed on this forum some time ago, So take a look in the archive section.
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Old 9th April 2019, 05:36
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

Hello,

No idea if this is the aircraft you mention, but some of the details match up:

21-09-1944
No.437 (RCAF) Sqn.
Dakota III FZ656 (42-92417)

Crash landed Turnhout, Belgium,

Crew:

J/20134 F/O (Pilot) Robert Allen KENNY RCAF - PoW
AUS409908 W/O (2nd Pilot) Ronald Edgar ENGLISH RAAF - PoW
1607215 Sgt (Nav.) Louis EVANS RAFVR - PoW
J/87683 P/O (W.Op.) Alfred H. MacALONEY RCAF - PoW

Despathchers:

Driver W. T. EVANS, 799 Airborne RASC - PoW
Driver ? JENSEN, 799 Airborne RASC - PoW
Driver ? JORDAN, 799 Airborne RASC - PoW
L/Cpl ??????????, 799 Airborne RASC - PoW

Maybe someone can add a bit more detail to the above.

Col.

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Old 9th April 2019, 09:16
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

Hello ,

I can find no POW trace from these men , if they came down near Turnhout , who was already liberated , who did the became POW ?
Check the following link once

http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...ron-RCAF/page3

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Old 9th April 2019, 12:51
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

Just for info, here are serial numbers of RAF Dams lost on Op 'Market Garden' from 18th to the 26th.
18
KG570 - 512 Sqn.
19th
FZ626 - 271 Sqn.
KG374 - 271 Sqn.
KG388 - 575 Sqn.
KG428 - 48 Sqn.
KG324 - 512 Sqn.
KG401 - 48 Sqn.
20th
KG413 - 512 Sqn.
21st
FZ620 - 48 Sqn.
FZ656 - 437 Sqn.
KG340 - 271 Sqn.
KG346 - 48 Sqn.
KG376 - 437 Sqn.
KG387 - 437 Sqn.
KG399 - 233 Sqn.
KG404 - 48 Sqn.
KG417 - 48 Sqn.
KG444 - 271 Sqn.
KG489 - 437 Sqn.
KG516 - 271 Sqn.
KG566 - 233 Sqn.
KG579 - 48 Sqn.
KG586 - 233 Sqn.
23rd
KG315 - 437 Sqn.
KG370 - 48 Sqn.
25th
KG512 - 271 Sqn.
26th
KG449 - 575 Sqn.

Refs were Air Brit FA100-FZ999 and KA100-KZ999.
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Old 9th April 2019, 18:59
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

Alain,


Re your Post # 4: Turnhout was (fully) liberated on 24 September 1944, so crew and/or soldiers of the Dakota may have been taken prisoner during Market Garden if a/c came down in vicinity of town.


Groet,


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Old 9th April 2019, 19:26
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

In the online book "Air Battle for Arnhem" (Alan W. Cooper) it transpires on p. 112 that pilot Kenny and driver Evans could evade thanks to Dutch resistance people and found their way back to England.


W/O Ronald English appears on this Australian website as POW: http://www.powmemorialballarat.com.a...-war-2-e-f.php


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Old 9th April 2019, 19:43
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

Alfred MacAloney (RCAF) appears in the Ottawa Journal of 23 Nov 1944 as being a POW in Germany.


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Old 9th April 2019, 20:45
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

Colin Cummings "Though Without Anger" has:


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The aircraft was hit by flak and despite getting to the Belgian border, it was eventually crash landed on heathland. The crew, captained by Flying Officer Kenny, was captured with the exception of two of the despatchers who evaded.

Kenny's parents must have been quite surprised as the day that Kenny went missing was the same day they received a telegram informing them that their other son, F/O James Frederick Henry Kenny, was reported Prisoner of War.


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Old 10th April 2019, 04:08
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Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden

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Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
Just for info, here are serial numbers of RAF Dams lost on Op 'Market Garden' from 18th to the 26th.
18
KG570 - 512 Sqn.
19th
FZ626 - 271 Sqn.
KG374 - 271 Sqn.
KG388 - 575 Sqn.
KG428 - 48 Sqn.
KG324 - 512 Sqn.
KG401 - 48 Sqn.
20th
KG413 - 512 Sqn.
21st
FZ620 - 48 Sqn.
FZ656 - 437 Sqn.
KG340 - 271 Sqn.
KG346 - 48 Sqn.
KG376 - 437 Sqn.
KG387 - 437 Sqn.
KG399 - 233 Sqn.
KG404 - 48 Sqn.
KG417 - 48 Sqn.
KG444 - 271 Sqn.
KG489 - 437 Sqn.
KG516 - 271 Sqn.
KG566 - 233 Sqn.
KG579 - 48 Sqn.
KG586 - 233 Sqn.
23rd
KG315 - 437 Sqn.
KG370 - 48 Sqn.
25th
KG512 - 271 Sqn.
26th
KG449 - 575 Sqn.

Refs were Air Brit FA100-FZ999 and KA100-KZ999.
Alex
Hello,

20th
512 Sqn - KG413 - Should read KG418*. KG413 was a No.194 Sqn Dakota III that overshot a landing in heavy rain at Sylhet, India on 23-6-44 DBR.

* https://www.tracesofwar.com/sights/4...kota-KG418.htm

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