Soviet Claims 22 Jul 42

[Chris Goss]

Does anyone have an idea who might have shot down Hptm Heinz Greisert Kdr III./JG 3 near Baskij on 22 Jul 42?

[kirche]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

near Baskij

Hello Chris,
The name of the place is spelled incorrectly, so it is not clear which region is in question. I saw data that this happened in the battle with I-16. But you need to clarify the area of ​​the battle (combat mission) and preferably the flight time.
I have a version that these events could happen in the near Rostov in the region of 6.00 or more likely 11.00-12.00 (Berlin time)
B.R.,
Kirill

[Chris Goss]

All I have is it was AM "..bei Baski am Nordufer des Don"

[kirche]

Базки - Farm in the Konstantinovsky district of the Rostov region.
http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_south-...26&y=47.811778
Or
Базки (Базковский) - Farm in the Serafimovichsky district, Volgograd region
http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_osteur...55&y=49.429680
Or
Базковский (local Базки) - Farm in the Verkhnedonskoy district, Rostov region, Russia
http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_osteur...84&y=49.766655
Or
Базковский (local Базки) - village in the Sholokhov district of the Rostov region.
http://etomesto.com/map-rkka_ug/?x=4...87&y=49.594841

[Chris Goss]

So not much chance without further information from Germany. VDK has nothing on him

[kirche]

III/JG3 - 22.07.1942 from Nowy Cholan (=Tazinskaja-Süd)
http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_osteur...61&y=48.101087

- Ofw. Walter Ohlrogge 9./JG 3 MiG-1 - 05.00

- Oblt. Viktor Bauer 9./JG 3 Curtiss P-40 - 3 km SW Semikarakorskiy - 05.55
- Ofw. Eberhard v. Boremski 9./JG 3 LaGG-3 Semikarakorskiy: 800 m. (Rostov) or Korskaja - 05.55
- Oblt. Viktor Bauer 9./JG 3 LaGG-3 Razdorskiy or 1 km ostlich Sjusjaskij : 300 m. - 05.57
- Ofw. Eberhard v. Boremski 9./JG 3 LaGG-3 Korskaja - 05.58
- Oblt. Viktor Bauer 9./JG 3 Il-2 3 km sudlich Sjusjaskij - 06.00
Ssemikarakorskaja http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_south-...52&y=47.516495
Rasdorskaja http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_south-...12&y=47.542132
Ssussatskij http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_south-...37&y=47.427130

- Ltn. Heinrich Graf v. Einsiedel Stab III./JG 3 I-16 Rata £ - 09.25

- Fw. Siegfried Engfer 9./JG 3 Il-2 £ - 14.58
- Ltn. Rolf Diergardt 9./JG 3 Il-2 £ - 15.00

[kirche]

This group definitely flew to the area Rostov, but it could also fly east and north — along the entire front line along the Don River. There are no exact matches between the claims of fighters of 4 VA Juzhniy Front and 8 VA Stalingrad Front in place with the Bazki area (any of the four).

[kirche]

For the battle of Bauer and Boremski there are several options in 4 VA:
216 IAD:
5.25-7.02 - 4 Il-2 (103 ShAP) and 10 Yak-1 (247 IAP) - Attack of motor-vehicle units in area Krimskiy (http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_south-...75&y=47.672482). Air combat with 6 Me-110 and 4 Me-109.
Shot down - 1 Me-110 - lieutenant Fedorov (247 IAP) - in the area of ​​Azov (http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_south-...91&y=47.104053)
Shot down - 1 Me-110 - St. lieutenant Bukhanov (103 ShAP) - Direct hit missile
Losses:
- 1 Il-2 (Ml. lieutenant Kovalenko) - forced landing at Bataysk airfield without landing gear after damaged from the Me-110. Pilot unscathed - aircraft repair;
- 1 Il-2 (Timoshkov) - forced landing east of Novocherkassk on the right bank of the river Mokraya Kadamovka (http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_south-...03&y=47.429147)

217 IAD:
131 IAP - 6.50-7.50 - 5 LaGG-3 at an altitude of 2000 near Rostov attacked 4 Me-110, but were themselves attacked 4 Me-109.
Shot down - 1 Me-109f fell down burning - lieutenant Moiseev (confirms the commander of the squadron captain Nazarenko).
Losses: After the pursuit of the enemy (on west), 2 LaGG-3 lagged behind the group and were attacked by the enemy - lieutenant Yarovoy was hit and re-attacked during an emergency landing (the pilot returned to the unit); lieutenant Poyarkov - MIA.

249 IAP - 6.50-7.50 - 8 LaGG-3 vs 6 Me-109 - no results; Losses: lieutenant Razdobud'ko - MIA; sergeant Hudyakov - MIA (came back later)

But at this time there are claims of other units in that area.