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KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
Hello,
I'm trying to caption a photo of He111H-2 6N+NH that apparently force-landed on a lake in Norway during the spring of 1940. The photo depicts the aircraft in a snowstorm. The only likely prospect I can find in "Fledgling Eagles" is “Near Elvenes on this date (May 6, 1940) an He111 of 1/KGr100 was brought down by AA and other ground fire, force-landing south of Holtasen: Fw Oswald Lochbrunner and his crew managed to make their way through the lines on foot to reach German Alpine troops.” However, May seems a little late, although not impossible, for a snowstorm. Does anyone know the circumstances and date of the loss of 6N+NH? I know from other photos that I've seen, that the plane remained on the lake until the spring thaw, broke through the ice, and probably settled to the bottom of the lake. Has it ever been recovered? Can anyone help? Thanx |
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
Hello,
I should have done a little more research before I posted that query. This is obviously the H-2, 6N+NH, of Hptm. Artur von Casimir, of Stab KGr100, that force landed on Lake Jonsvatnet near Trondheim on 20.4.40, and which was salvaged from the lake in the recent past with all markings pretty well intact. Excellent color photos exist of the salvage on the "Luftwaffe wrecks Norway" website. If anyone has contact with the owner of those color photos, I'd appreciate being put in contact with him. Another photo of this aircraft sinking through the ice can be found in Karl Ries' book "Dora-Kurfürst und rote 13," Vol. 4, P.87. If anyone else has photos or information on this loss, I'd appreciate hearing from them. Thanx, |
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
Hi;
A documentery, ´Winger under Vann ´ was made on this in Norway in 2004. Try forum ´Norway in WW-2´, an link to that page can be found on SIG Luftwaffe homepage. Ju 88 0119 U4+TK was raised at same time see also www.Ju88.net - See also www.flyvrak.info . i know Kjell Sörensen has colour pics of both aircraft rasing from jonsvannet. cheers ed |
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
Thanks Ed!
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
[quote=Larry Hickey;39790]Hello,
Another photo of this aircraft sinking through the ice can be found in Karl Ries' book "Dora-Kurfürst und rote 13," Vol. 4, P.87. If anyone else has photos or information on this loss, I'd appreciate hearing from them. Hi Larry! Tried to contact you by PM but your box is full. Do you have this book or picture? I have some colour pictures of the salvage , I was there the hole week watching the salvage . I also have one 7.92 round found in JU88 U4 + TK in my collection, It was given me by Guttorm who is restauring the plane. John Fredrik |
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
Hi, would anybody happen to know whether Hptm. Artur von Casimir's Flugbuch survives to this day, or does anybody have any copies from this?
Best regs, Steve. |
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
No flugbuch but he gave me a handwritten listing of his operational flights
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
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John Fredrik |
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
Don`t know if you guys have seen this photo before but I bought this on ebay for a while ago.
John Fredrik Last edited by John Fredrik; 4th April 2012 at 16:33. |
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Re: KGr100 He 111H down in a snowstorm on lake in Norway
Here are a few more ex eBay auction photos, one showing 6N+NH prior to Norway and another of her prone on the ice.
Last edited by ChrisS; 21st May 2012 at 15:09. |
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