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Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
Here is photo of Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot ppor. Wieslaw Bobrowski in 19 April 1945:
http://www.polishairforce.pl/1plm/11.jpg '...Wrak Fw 190. Według opisu zdjęcia samolot ten jest dowodem potwierdzającym zwycięstwo ppor. Wiesława Bobrowskiego from 1 Pułk Lotnictwa Myśliwskiego "Warszawa" (19 kwietnia 1945 r.). ...'' please try id German pilot "'weiss 1"' ? Source: http://www.polishairforce.pl/1plmzdj.html |
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Re: Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
Any location reported?
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Re: Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
I had 5 KIA 1 WIA and 3 unhurt Fw 190 A pilots that day, but so John wrote without a location its hart to say.
khorat Michael Balss |
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Re: Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
19.04.1945 , his aircraft was: Jak-9 , por. Wiesław Bobrowski , hitted aircraft: Fw 190
http://www.polishairforce.pl/1plmstraty.html Probably from: JG 300 lub 301 river Oder front here is moust about this fight with FW190: Orginal Polish version: "...W dniu 14 kwietnia 1945 r., dla wzięcia udziału w operacji berlińskiej, 1 plm "Warszawa" przebazował się z lotniska Mirosławiec na lotnisko Baranówka, położone 30 km. od Kostrzynia. Sytuacja lotnicza w bitwie o Berlin była bardziej skomplikowana jak w poprzednich operacjach. Chociaż, lotnictwo radzieckie i polskie panowało w powietrzu, to pierwsze dni operacji obfitowały w liczne zacięte walki powietrzne. Hitlerowcy rzucili do walki wszystkie jednostki lotnicze. O natężeniu walk powietrznych świadczyć może fakt, że tylko w okresie od 6 do 20 kwietnia lotnicy radzieccy i polscy stoczyli 841 walk powietrznych. W okresie operacji berlińskiej pułk wykonywał trzy podstawowe zadania:
Version translated by Google : "...On 14 April 1945, to take part in the Berlin operation, 1 Fighter Regiment "Warszawa" changed the airport Baranówka to Miroslawiec airport, located 30 km. from Kostrzyn (Küstrin). Air situation in the Battle of Berlin was more complicated, as in previous operations. Although the Soviet and Polish Air Force prevailed in the air, the first days of the operation were filled with numerous fierce dogfights. The Germans rushed to fight all of the airline. The intense air combat evidenced by the fact that only in the period from 6 to 20 April the Soviet and Polish airmen fought 841 dogfights. During the Berlin operation Regiment perform three basic tasks: cover groups and crossings over the Oder branches 1 Army Divisions: Old Oder, Welfen, Flatow, Bornicke, Weklefanz, Orarienbug; insurance activities 3 Assault Aviation Regiment at targets in regions Bad - Freienwalde, Ferbellin, Dechtow, Neu Ruppin, Rethenow. conducting reconnaissance of the enemy troops mainly for the benefit of one Army, for the duration of the operation, the output from the regions to the river Elbe. These tasks regiment began on April 16 making 12 flights. On the second day made 10 flights in the third 88, the fourth 65 and the fifth 59 sorties. Pilots acquitted themselves well Regiment during combat operations on April 19, 1945 On this day during six aircraft battels they shot down three enemy aircraft type "FW - 190" without incurring losses. When guard crossings 10 and 21 April were fought 12 fights air and attacked several enemy ground targets. Before starting the activities directly into Berlin, the regiment moved to Lauenberg to the airport, located 40 km west of the Oder. ..." Source: http://81.15.170.214/index.php?optio...d=80&Itemid=58 What you know about this: ??/03/45 Uffz. Heinz Warnicke 11./JG 301 Fw 190 A-9 Combat 2/03/45 Uffz. Gerhard Gütel I./JG 300 Fw 190 A-9 (207193 Unknown reason 2/03/45 Ofhr. Heinz Schäfer I./JG 300 Fw 190 (202371) Unknown reason ?/03/45 Uffz. Heinz Warnicke 11./JG 301 Fw 190 A-9 Combat ??/04/45 Fhr. Heinrich Ladewig 5./JG 301 Fw 190 A-9 Combat ??/04/45 Obgfr. Norbert Kleiber 7./JG 301 Fw 190 D-9 Combat Source: http://www.luftwaffe.be/miamain.html Last edited by KrisJG3; 20th September 2012 at 22:06. |
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Re: Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
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So acc. to information from book (page: 366) - "Jaki startuja o świcie" - author Medard Konieczny (veteran) this photo was made on the "Flugplatz Finowfurt" as confirmation from ground Soviet unit to this pilot hit (so we can see Russian text on photo). Fw190 was in position up side down so was hitted in the air (not destroyed on Earth by ground units). (German pilot tried to sit down with aircraft on airfield and than was hitted.) http://www.polishairforce.pl/1plm/11.jpg So who could be German pilot inside unlucky Fw190 ?
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Re: Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
But It's a Fw190F-8 or F-9 so we must search inside SG units...
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Re: Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
The aircraft from the photo was not shot down, it flipped over during take off or landing. Otherwise the damages to the airframe parts witch contacted the ground would have been much more serious. Some parts have been removed by the Germans before they left the base. This one is most probably an accident of a Fw 190F-8 from 4./SG 3, which was based at Finow from February until April 1945.
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Re: Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
Totally agree.
Thanks for your help Gerhard ! |
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Re: Fw190 hitted by Polish pilot Bobrowski 19.04.1945
"... it flipped over during take off or landing. ..."
Here is full descripion of action as it was Sorry but I have got only one page (Polish version) of memories one veteran regarding this story - place of photo: Finowfurt. This photo was made by ground units (probably Russian units - photo was signed with russian text) as confirmation for pilot. Fw190 was during procedure of landing on the airfield and than was hitted on the low level . Picture made some days after action by infantry units: http://www.polishairforce.pl/1plm/11.jpg One of veterans this unit still alive in Russia.
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