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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
Nick, that is possible.
12./JG 51 Lt. Klaus-Hennig Kramrath Yak-4 (1) 05:50 47723 This could be the 11 ORAP Pe-2 for the 18 Aug 42. Nikita had found a claim for a Yak-4 in 1943 that was actually a Pe-2. It's also Kramrath's first victory so mistakes are possible in ID. |
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
19 Jun 1943 (Information researched by Nikita Egorov)
Pe-2 11 ORAP (3 VA) Ml. Lt. Vasiliy Ivanovich Pushkarev was attacking a Hs 123 when he was shot down. Pushkarev and two crew were KIA. 11./JG 51 Fw. Martin Schamberger claimed a "Yak-4" (14) 20:03 PlQu. 35 Ost/26154. Schamberger then had engine failure over the Soviet line and forced landed, 1 km W. of Borschtschina, PlQu. 35 Ost/ 26383, 100% Fw 190 A-4 5540 sw. 2 ++. According to the Kracker website he is listed as MIA but was a POW after landing. |
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07.06.44 Ofw. Helmut Lange 1. /JG 51 P e- 2 04221: at 6.000 m . 11.40 Film C . 2 0 3 2 / I Anerk: Nr. 288
Pe-2 No. 5/288 of 10 ORAP (1 VA): pilot Jr.Lt. Marusenko, Navigator, Jr.Lt. Pavlovsky and gunner-radio operator Lt. Akhmadulin. |
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08 Jan 43 recon. mission Olenin - Durovo Andreevskoe region
Pe-2 11 ORAP (flight co.) Lt. Timofey Kirillovich Karpov (MIA) Fw. Walter Bracke 8/JG 51 Pe-2 (4) 12:40 PlQu. 47763 07 Nov 42 recon. mission to Molodoy Tud, Rzhev & Osuga. Pe-2 11 ORAP St. Serzhant Galaktion Zinov'evich Safronov (MIA) Fw. Siegfried Schwaneberg 8./JG 51 Pe-2 (16) 08:32 PlQu. 46462 |
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31 Aug 1943 Yelnya
Maj. Mariano Cuadra Medina 15.(Span.)/JG 51 LaGG-3 (7) 13:05 PlQu. 35 Ost/35374 at 4000 m. Lt. Jose Mateos Recio 15./JG 51 LaGG-3 (3) 12:57 SE Yelnya at 4000 m. 1 OIAP "Normandie" has 9 Yak-1 covering Soviet forces at Yelnya on observing the approach of 100 He 111 and under escort of 20 Fw 190 which they attacked west of Yelnya. In the ensuing dogfight at 14:10 (Moscow) the Yak-9 (side # 0435) [Doesn't appear all were Yak-1] flown by Capt. Paul de Forges (MIA) is shot down west of Yelnya and also the Yak-1 of Aspirant Jean De Sibour (MIA). Capt. de Forges aircraft was recovered after the war but he is still MIA. His was possibly shot down by Medina as the location is west of Yelnya. |
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
16 Jan 1943 Soviet Kalinin Front 293 BAD
Target: Burtsevo - Alekseekskoe Pe-2 804 BAP Ml. Lt. Mikhail Efimovich Syromyatnikov (KIA) Pe-2 804 BAP Ml. Lt. Nikolay Dmitievich Korolev (MIA0 Pe-2 804 BAP ? Pe-2 804 BAP Mayor Vladimir Yakovlevich Gavrilov (Survived but shot down) Gavrilov made it to the front line before bringing his plane down. He also claimed that his crew shot down two Bf 109 but IV./JG 51 suffered no losses and no damage to rate 10%. The 804 BAP had 7 KIA and MIA. 12./JG 51 Fw. Kurt Tanzer Pe-2 (22) 08:14 07553 Uffz. Walter Priess Pe-2 (12) 08:15 07581 Uffz. Gustav Müller Pe-2 (14) 08:20 07582 Fw. Wilhelm Mildner Pe-2 (2) 08:25 07533 11./JG 51 Uffz. Martin Schamberger Pe-2 (6) 08:25 07584 It appears that Müller was involved in the attack on Gavrilov but it was Schamberger who finished his bomber off. |
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Hi Nokose,
I had these ones listed as 202 BAP, 263 BAD, 3 VA. This was likely the crew of Lt. N I Gapeenka bellylanded back at base; one other crew's navigator baled out, rest of crew apparently returned to base (slight overclaim) as per http://www.allaces.ru/p/episode.php?id=569 While noting that the 2 Pe-2s claimed by II/JG 54 that date were listed as shot down several hours later... Nick |
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
Nick,
Even thought this raid appears at the same time there seems to be a problem with someone claiming from what is described in Gapeenka's story. A "single" Bf 109 attack without a wingman which is possible would need a wingman to confirm or ground verification. 202 BAP or 263 BAD seem to have suffered no other losses this day. This leaves the 804 BAP. At best this would leave no over claiming by IV./JG 51 this day. Reference the 4./JG 54 claims this day. They were part of Luft. Kdo. Don fighting in the Stalingrad sector of the eastern front. |
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