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Old 28th March 2021, 12:29
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

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Old 28th March 2021, 13:46
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Given the soviet soldiers and the kind of mountains in the background there are not many possible locations where these pictures could have been taken. Eastern Austria is more flat (IIRC), which leaves basically only Northern Bohemia or Soutwest Silesia. This also ties in with the known area of operations of KG (J) 6. Perhaps Reichenberg/Liberec or Niemes/Mimon.
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Old 28th March 2021, 14:29
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Thanks Lubo. Not enough though for our purpose. Nice try anyway.
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Old 28th March 2021, 14:33
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Given the soviet soldiers and the kind of mountains in the background there are not many possible locations where these pictures could have been taken. Eastern Austria is more flat (IIRC), which leaves basically only Northern Bohemia or Soutwest Silesia. This also ties in with the known area of operations of KG (J) 6. Perhaps Reichenberg/Liberec or Niemes/Mimon.

I see a KG(J) 54 machine Christian. See known "Gelbe 2" and "Gelbe 3".
Why not Deutsch-Brod? But I don't know the landscape around!

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Old 28th March 2021, 15:19
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Oops, somehow i had KG(J) 6 in mind. But anyway, this doesn't change much. Red Army soldiers plus a landscape like that indicate the area I mentioned. Okay, I guess somewhere in Thuringia might be possible too, but this Bf 109 very much looks like a Tisnov-built example, which would also point to Bohemia a little more.



The landscape around Deutsch Brod (as seen in JaPo's book on the Bf 109s there) looks not that mountainous.
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Oops, somehow i had KG(J) 6 in mind. But anyway, this doesn't change much. Red Army soldiers plus a landscape like that indicate the area I mentioned. Okay, I guess somewhere in Thuringia might be possible too, but this Bf 109 very much looks like a Tisnov-built example, which would also point to Bohemia a little more.

The landscape around Deutsch Brod (as seen in JaPo's book on the Bf 109s there) looks not that mountainous.

OK, Thanks Christian.
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Old 29th March 2021, 15:57
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Franck, ChristianK,

Further to this KG(J) 54 machine - and the WNF Diana G-10/U4, location might well be Zeltweg. Hoping for a confirmation though.

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Further to this KG(J) 54 machine - and the WNF Diana G-10/U4, location might well be Zeltweg. Hoping for a confirmation though.

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The British found many Bf 109s at Zeltweg but no Me 262, so if that is the place, the Russians must have taken the jet away before they left on 21 July 1945.
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The British found many Bf 109s at Zeltweg but no Me 262, so if that is the place, the Russians must have taken the jet away before they left on 21 July 1945.
Hi Nick,

Whatever Zeltweg (or Saaz btw) I did have the same thoughts BUT, in the mean time, I wonder if the British or the US where that stupid to let such machine in Russian hands...
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PS: there is some kind of a factory in the far background, aren't we able to ID it?
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Old 29th March 2021, 19:16
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Whatever Zeltweg (or Saaz btw) I did have the same thoughts BUT, in the mean time, I wonder if the British or the US where that stupid to let such machine in Russian hands...
The Soviets were there first, withdrew in July and then the British moved in. It was all part of establishing the different occupation zones in Austria.
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