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Old 3rd March 2021, 17:03
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

Translating this name into English and I get Middle Feet, which suggests a geographic feature like the foot of a hill or foothills.

I don't know if that is accurate but sometimes a problem like this needs to be approached from different angles.


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Old 3rd March 2021, 19:37
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

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Translating this name into English and I get Middle Feet, which suggests a geographic feature like the foot of a hill or foothills.

I don't know if that is accurate but sometimes a problem like this needs to be approached from different angles.


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Good evening !

Could it be a location in the Netherlands, not so far from the German border ?. From 1940 to 1944 it was common, that many of this Netherland, Lumxembourg and Belgium location-names were "germanized"

Just a guess

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Old 3rd March 2021, 20:33
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

It's part of or derived from an orthopedic term auf Deutsch:

Für die schnellen Leser – Auf einen Blick
Unter einer Mittelfußarthrose wird ein Verschleiß im mittleren Abschnitt des Fußes verstanden. Aus anatomischer Sichte wird der Fuß in – Vorfuß, Mittelfuß und Rückfuß unterteilt. Im mittleren Abschnitt des Fußes finden sich zahlreiche Gelenke, die allerdings allenfalls eine minimale „Wackelbeweglichkeit“ ausführen können. Unter funktionellen Gesichtspunkten muss der mittlere Abschnitt des Fußes vor allem stabil sein. Die Gelenke werden auch als Amphiarthrosen bezeichnet. Das sich in diesem Bereich des Fußes überhaupt Gelenke (Amphiarthrosen) befinden ist nicht der Funktion, sondern der Entwicklungsbiologie geschuldet.

In a geological/geographical context, it may have something to with an arch?

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Old 3rd March 2021, 20:45
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

Maybe it is the name of a yet to be identified beacon, or Funkfeuer. Just an idea.


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Old 3rd March 2021, 21:28
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

In the same night Jabs claimed a Halifax "Bei Niedermüssen"....at least that was what Tony Wood wrote in his list. Do we know where that is?
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Old 3rd March 2021, 21:42
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

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In the same night Jabs claimed a Halifax "Bei Niedermüssen"....at least that was what Tony Wood wrote in his list. Do we know where that is?

nr Niederaussem: 5.800 m. 19:55 (Boiten)



Niederaussem is near Bergheim in Nordrhein-Westfalen.
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Old 3rd March 2021, 23:03
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

Ok, thanks. I thought there might be a link to that Mittelfüssen....

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Old 5th March 2021, 11:29
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

Apparently it concerns the night victory of Lt. Albert Berghoff (7./NJG 1), on the night of 3-4.11.1944. His flightlog was recently sold on eBay (https://www.ebay.de/itm/124602091133).
This victory is on Tony Wood's list with "Mittelfüssen" as the crash location.
I think the location is misspelled.

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Last edited by René Brachten; 5th March 2021 at 15:33. Reason: typo
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

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Apparently it concerns the night victory of Lt. Albert Berghoff (7./NJG 1), on the night of 3-4.11.1944. His flightlog was recently sold on eBay (https://www.ebay.de/itm/124602091133).
This victory is on Tony Wood's list with "Mittelfüssen" as the crash location.
I think the location is misspelled.

René
Good evening !

In the Night of 3-4 November 1943 while Düsseldorf was attacked, one HALIFAX was claimed by Hauptmann Hans-Joachim Jabs, Stab IV/NJG 1 at 19:55 hrs at NIEDERMÜSSEMand Leutnant Berghof of 7./NJG 1 claimed a LANCASTER at 20.02 near MITTELFÜSSEN.

This is according to tony Wood's list.

Maybe, this helps.

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Old 6th March 2021, 10:37
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Re: Location of place called 'Mittelfüssen' (?), 25 km NW of Düsseldorf (noted in late 1943 Nachtjagd claim)

Dear all,

Thanks for all your interesting replies, these are the claims details:

Lt. Albert Bergerhoff: 1 7./NJG1 Lancaster Mittelfüssen (?), 25 km NW Düsseldorf: 5.500 m. 20.02 Düsseldorf raid, unidentified. Note: victory confirmed on 12.7.1944

The location 'Mittelfüssen' is recorded in the OKL/RLM Abschusssfilm, the location '25 km NW of Düsseldorf' is recorded in Bergerhoff's Flugbuch, which I have studied recently, and which was indeed sold on Ebay.

Problem is that I have not found a Bomber Command crash near the location of 25 km NW of Düsseldorf. Neither have I found a Bomber Command Combat report of a 'heavy' that was engaged and (severely) damaged in this area/around this time, which could explain the Bergerhoff Abschussmeldung. So for the time being, this will remain a mystery.

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