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Old 8th June 2021, 09:38
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Bf110 wreck, USSR, july 1942, need help to identify.

Hello gentlemen.
Here are the parts of Bf110, I believe, Emil, found near Semikarakorskaya, Rostov-on-Don region.

Witnesses say, it was shot down by soviet AAA in late july 1942. 3 crew member bailed out, but found dead near crashsite.

Very little is left from aircraft. Parts of engine, small debrises, and parts of engine armour plates are found.

On one of rusty armour plates, text is found:
WrN. 4 4 _ _, third sign seems to be 3, or 6, or 8, or 9, or 0.

Also, two unexploded sc50 were found. Other two exploded on impact of aircraft.

There is one loss in 5./ZG1, 20 july 42, W. Nr 4400, but place is Sulinskaja, wich is rather far to NE from actual crash place.

So, it could be aufklarungs Bf110?
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Old 8th June 2021, 11:05
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Re: Bf110 wreck, USSR, july 1942, need help to identify.

One potential candidate:
1943-01-08, 6./ZG 1, Bf 110 E-1, 4493, S9+JP, Südwestlich Ssemikarakorskaja (Pl.Qu. 0862)
Flugzeugführer Lt Le Claire, Erich, +
Bordfunker Fw Frank, Ernst, +
Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.

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Old 8th June 2021, 15:21
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Re: Bf110 wreck, USSR, july 1942, need help to identify.

Bingo. Thx a lot Matti!
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Old 8th June 2021, 15:45
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Re: Bf110 wreck, USSR, july 1942, need help to identify.

MATTI,

Me and several other members here do owe you "some numbers of beers"!

Congratulations for matching and ID the machine

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Old 8th June 2021, 16:13
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Re: Bf110 wreck, USSR, july 1942, need help to identify.

I am happy to help.

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Old 8th June 2021, 17:07
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Re: Bf110 wreck, USSR, july 1942, need help to identify.

Matti.

100% accurancy.
Pl.Qu. 0862 is a kilometer away from wreck site.

Gentlemen: Are there any photo of S9+JP and Erich Le Claire? I believe I saw it in one of the perfect John Vasco's books.

Quote:
LE CLAIRE, Erich. (DKG).
16.11.42 Lt., (pilot) awarded the Ehrenpokal.
08.01.43 Lt., 6./ZG 1 KIA -
Bf 110 E-1 (S9+OP(JP?)) lost to AA in Pl.Qu. 0682 SW of Ssemikarakorakorskaja.
12.04.43 Lt., II./ZG 1 awarded the DKG.
Any additional info on this pilot?
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Le Claire was shot down by AAA crew of st. s-t N. S. Afanasjev, of 5th Guards Heavy Tank Brigade.
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Re: Bf110 wreck, USSR, july 1942, need help to identify.

EV I would advise you to be very carefull with the bombs. One might go off
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