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Old 13th December 2018, 23:55
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Bruce,

Very interesting info you are posting. The July 43 one from JG 77 solved a puzzle for me, which I had never found elsewhere, the time of Steinhoff's P-40 claim.

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Old 14th December 2018, 00:06
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Thanks Russel, good to get feedback and know the posts are useful.


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Old 16th December 2018, 16:48
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Further extract from CX/MSS/2872/T16 (see post#199), Luftflotte II Tactical Strength Returns 7/7/43:
"III KG 6 (smudged) ,
JU 88 A4B WORKS NO. 2417 ON 6/7 NOT RETURNED (WORD OR TWO ILLEGIBLE) SEARCH OPERATION"
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Old 16th December 2018, 16:58
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CX/MSS/2872/T6
“RECCE GRUPPE 122 TO A/C SECURITY CENTRE AT 1930/9/7 :-
JU 88 5 M K UP ON TASK AT 1900 HRS.
5 M S UP AT 1835 HRS. FOR CIAMPINO NORTH, OPERATION FROM THERE.
TASK OF THE A/C
( NOTE: singular) RECCE SOUTH FROM SICILY.
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Old 17th December 2018, 19:50
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CX/MSS/2872
Source for this extract is not given:

“To PIACENZA AIRFIELD ON 5/7:-
Reference airfield security on 6/7.
5 Ju.88, V4+AL, CL, KL, ML, DL, will take off at 0600 from AIRASCA vis RIMINI, ANCONA, FLORENCE back to AIRASCA. Height depends on weather. Please inform aircraft security and Flak. Ju.88 V4+DB arrived 1559.”



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Old 17th December 2018, 19:59
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CX/MSS/2872
“Senior Signals Officer to ENNA (word or two illegible) SUREN on 9/7:-
Storch damaged in night attack on TAORMINA. No other flying possibility here.
NOTE: Above stamped Div. GOERING.”


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Old 17th December 2018, 20:08
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CX/MSS/2872
“An incomplete report dated 8/7 from II UDET:-
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Ltn. SCHUSTER 20th – 21st, 1 Jak, 1 Lagg 5.
Fw. FRESE 27th, 1 I.L.2
Fw. KLOSS 13th, 1 I.L.2
Fw. TRAPHAN 6th, 1 I.L.2
Uffz. SCHEIBE 4th, 1 (Jak) 1
Uffz. BRINGMANN (smudge) 6th, 1 I.L.2
Uffz. DRAEGER 2nd, 1 I>L>2
Fw. EYRICH 32nd, 1 Jak 1”

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CX/MSS/2873

To SEEWIND (Fleigerfuehrer SARDINIA) ic, ON 9/7:
0735 to 08(09) hours, Ju escort from E.21 ((= VENAFIORITA)) to E 17 ((= MILIS)) without contacting enemy…. (rest not seen).

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Extract: Ju.52 H 1 C unserviceable on VILLACIDRO airfield.
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Communication signed ‘IA’ issued early on 9/7-
A Rotte is to be detailed to go to E 21 after 0745 hours for fighter protection of 4 Ju.52’s from E.21 ((=VENAFIORITA)) to E 5 ((=OTTANA)) or E 17 ((=MILIS))
Note: Source believes the above was sent to CHILIVANI by Fliegerfuehrer SARDINIA.”

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CX/MSS/2873

C. in C. SOUTH Chief QM/QM to ((Commandant)) German Armed Forces SICILY QM. At 2000/8/7:-
No. 15395
Took off for CATANIA on 8/7:-
Ju. N1M with
80 serial No. 27A
40 “ “ 27C
40 “ “ 27D
= 2000 kg.
Ju. N2J, N3B, N4C, N4G, all as above.
Ju. P2A with 76 cases (canteen goods) = 912 bottles fruit syrup = 1985 kg. for Rations Office 445 CATANIA.
1 case spare parts for refrigerating plant for Rations Office 2/245 CESENA = 15 kg.
total 2000 kg.
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On 8/7 from C. in C. SOUTH, Chief QM, QM.1, (ref. 15396) to RUBIN((= 90 Pz. Gren. Div.))IB, O.C. Armed Forces Supplies OLIBA:-
Took off for VENAFIORITA on 8/7:
Ju. P4J with 5000 sand-bags, 5600 paper sand-bags, 50 sand-bag clasps = 2000 kilos.
Ju. P4B with 10 bags of body-belts
((?Leibbinden?)) = 2000 items = 300 kilos. 1 crate HBLN typewriter = 60 kilos for Rations Office 317, OLBIA.
1 crate HBLN = 1 typewriter for Intendant Branch Office C. in C., SOUTH Chief QM = 40 kilos.
1 crate HBLN = 1 typewriter for local commandant OLIBA = 50 kilos.
1 crate HBLN = 1 typewriter for O. C. Armed Forces Supplies OLIBA = 30 kilos.
1 crate S. 325 for Medical Supplies Issuing Station, OLBIA = 35 kilos. Total: 515 kilos.
NOTE: HBLN may be the markings on the crate and stand for Army BERLIN”

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From 1941:
Extracts from CX.MSS/26
16/6/41, 1/NJG Bf.110 E2, No. 4439 (tropics) sustained 100% damage. Marking L1 + PH.
Obltn. Hans OBERMAYER missing, W/T operator saved by Italian navy, search for pilot ‘unavailing’.

Above incident believed due to engine fault. Near ANAPHI island on recce flight area KYTHERA-CRETE-SCARPANTO-MOLOS
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