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Old 14th January 2009, 21:52
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Question JG2 losses

I'm looking for any details of four JG2 planes shot down on 16th of April 1942 during Ramrod 20 (it means around 11.30 or after but before 12.00). I recognise four claims that day:
F/O Horbaczewski - one Bf 109 5-6 miles SW Le Havre;
P/O Sologub - two Bf 109s 2-3 miles from Cabourg;
F/O Kudrewicz - one Bf 109 10 miles from Le Havre
plus - this could be very difficult to prove:
W/Cdr Hugo - one Bf 109 damaged over Le Havre

I understand that just JG2 (I./JG2) was involved...

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Old 14th January 2009, 22:11
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Re: JG2 losses

Hi,

Bf109F-4 (8405) 2./JG2 Lt.Kurt Eichler KIA combat with Spitfire either Cherbourg or 40 km NW of Le Havre 100%
Bf109F-4(7264) I./JG2 engine problems (could be your damaged fighter?) CL airfield Triqueville (Pont-Audemer) 75%
Bf109F-2 (8169) 7./JG2 Uffz. Friedrich Rietzler KIA combat with fighters 20 km N of Cherbourg (Pl.Qu. 10 354)

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Old 14th January 2009, 22:48
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Re: JG2 losses

Robert
What is a the source of this info?

Thanks, or rather Dziekuje
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Old 14th January 2009, 22:55
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Re: JG2 losses

Eichler was reported crashing in the sea & Rietzler being lost 1530 hrs (German time). I have Uffz Werner Magarin of 1/JG 2 force-landing at Cambiers in an F-4 13012 due to engine failure. That is all JG 2-wise
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Old 14th January 2009, 22:55
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Re: JG2 losses

Robert,
I have this info but... as far as I know W.Nr 8405 was shot down around 5pm; W.Nr 8169 again 5pm and W.Nr 13012 after 7pm....so a lot later than Ramrod 20. Or I'm wrong?
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Old 14th January 2009, 23:42
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Re: JG2 losses

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I'm looking for any details of four JG2 planes shot down on 16th of April 1942 during Ramrod 20 (it means around 11.30 or after but before 12.00). I recognise four claims that day:
F/O Horbaczewski - one Bf 109 5-6 miles SW Le Havre;
P/O Sologub - two Bf 109s 2-3 miles from Cabourg;
F/O Kudrewicz - one Bf 109 10 miles from Le Havre
plus - this could be very difficult to prove:
W/Cdr Hugo - one Bf 109 damaged over Le Havre

I understand that just JG2 (I./JG2) was involved...

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Four "claims" could be far removed from the actual number of combat related losses!
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Old 15th January 2009, 01:50
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Re: JG2 losses

There a short strip of Horbaczewski's gun camera film, which show a ball of smoke with wingtips. According to the pilot, the aircraft disintegrated soon after, but I cannot say if it was visible on the film and if it survives. Nonetheless, I cannot find any tie to German losses.
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Old 15th January 2009, 08:13
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Re: JG2 losses

Hi Peter,

I`m afraid but I have not the time of these losses.

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