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Old 1st June 2014, 12:16
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Re: Seeking info on three Do18 crewmen from 2./KüFlGr906 rescued by U-30 on 28.03.40

Do 18 D-3
Verbandkennzeichen : 8 L+KK
Verband : 2./ Kü.Fl.Gr.606, 2./ Kü.Fl.Gr.906
Werknummer : V 831
Verlustdatum : 1940-04-09
Verlustort : Hörnum
Verlustgrund : Landungsbruch, 100%
Chronik : Januar 1939 – Fertigung bei Weserflug in Einswarden (JP)
Januar 1939 – an 2./ Küstenfliegergruppe 606 in Kamp
25.10.1939 – an 2./ Küstenfliegergruppe 906 in Hörnum als 8L+KK (2)
09.04.1940 - 5 sm südöstl. Hörnum, Bruchlandung durch überschlag, 100% (1,2)
Schicksal Besatzung : † (FF) Uffz. Otto Backhaus, † (Bw) Uffz. August Haupt,
(Bo) Olt. z. S. Rolf Manke

Edit, Maybe this picture from the Crew U30 http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...UBoote/U30.htm
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Old 1st June 2014, 12:40
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Re: Seeking info on three Do18 crewmen from 2./KüFlGr906 rescued by U-30 on 28.03.40

The KTB of U-30 for this time period is available on National Archives Reel T1022-2831. According to the National Archives publication 'Records Relating to U-Boat Warfare 1939-1945' it includes an account of 'the recovery of the crew of a downed German aircraft'.
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Old 1st June 2014, 16:43
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Re: Seeking info on three Do18 crewmen from 2./KüFlGr906 rescued by U-30 on 28.03.40

Hi Larry,

Maybe you like to know that H.H. IPach was a crewmember in U30 before he changed to airfaorce. he was POW with U95 28. Nov. 1941 an survived the war , regards
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Old 5th June 2014, 21:44
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Re: Seeking info on three Do18 crewmen from 2./KüFlGr906 rescued by U-30 on 28.03.40

lilsis,

Indeed this is useful information about his association previously with U-30. We've added that as a comment to our loss report. Thanx.
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Old 6th June 2014, 22:34
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Re: Seeking info on three Do18 crewmen from 2./KüFlGr906 rescued by U-30 on 28.03.40

Hi Larry , on 25 Nov. 1940 a BV138 landed off the SW coast of Ireland due to engine trouble , the plane landed in rough seas and suffered damage to one of the floats and was unable to take off again .The crew made it to a near by island and were later interned in Ireland until August 1945 . One of the crew was Fw Hans Biegel , must be the same guy as in your first post !
He passed away a few years ago .
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Old 8th June 2014, 09:43
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Seeking to ID this Photo/Caption from Phoney War/Sitzkrieg "Messerschmitt"

Hello,

At the EoE WG (Working Group) we're trying to locate and catalog photos of every known LW and Allied a/c loss from 01.09.39 through 09.05.40. I think that there is a high probability that photos exist of all or almost all crash or force-landing incidents, especially LW planes that came down in France. Here is one that stumps me. The caption is dated 17.11.39 and says it shows the remains of a "Messerschimitt" shot down by French Curtiss fighters in a big air battle with 27 Bf109s "over the French lines."

I'm sure that other photos must exist of this incident, and it is sometime prior to the release date of the photo, perhaps even several weeks. Can anyone help put a precise date and place on this photo? Does anyone have additional photos relating to this incident, or a better copy of this photo?

http://ihra.smugmug.com/photos/i-CHd...-CHdRTSD-M.jpg
http://ihra.smugmug.com/photos/i-gTD...-gTDRvz2-M.jpg

We've got photos of most or all of the better-known crashes and FL, including those in the Netherlands and Belgium, but if anyone has photos of some of the lesser known, or not recently published incidents, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
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Old 8th June 2014, 10:01
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Re: Seeking to ID this Photo/Caption from Phoney War/Sitzkrieg "Messerschmitt"

Larry,

Here is I believe relevant excerpt from Mike Spick's book Luftwaffe Fighter Aces, page 36: "... A more significant combat took place on 6 November 1939. Polish campaign top-scorer Hannes Gentzen , at the head of JGr 102, was patrolling the frontier between the Maginot and Sigfried Lines. Well below he spotted a French Potez 637 on reconnaissance, escorted by nine Hawk 75s of GC II/5. Everything was in his favour - altitude, combat experience, and a numerical advantage of 3:1. He dived to the attack.

The French fought back fiercely. During the ensuing dogfight four Bf 109s were shot down and another four force-landed. The sole French casualty was a Hawk 75 which belly landed but was repairable...."

The above seems to fit the story on the back of the photo, including its delayed release.

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Old 8th June 2014, 10:03
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Re: Seeking to ID this Photo/Caption from Phoney War/Sitzkrieg "Messerschmitt"

Hi Larry,

The battle ' 9 against 27 ' (see text on the back side of the second picture) happened on 6 november 1939 when 9 aircraft of GC II/5 attacked (during the afternoon) approx 20 Bf109's.


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Old 8th June 2014, 10:51
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Re: Seeking to ID this Photo/Caption from Phoney War/Sitzkrieg "Messerschmitt"

A bit strange, the stamp of a Dutch company in Amsterdam! Would that mean the person who toke the photo was Dutch?
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Re: Seeking to ID this Photo/Caption from Phoney War/Sitzkrieg "Messerschmitt"

Not directly relevant : a photo-blog on GC II/5.
http://maquette72.free.fr/themes/laf...sse/index1.php
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