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Old 7th April 2019, 22:05
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Stig,

Regarding the crashes on May 7th the 87 Squadron Operational Record Book is basically useless. The April and May 1940 sections were lost in France. A narrative report for May 1940 was written up sometime after the unit returned to England. It has many errors and omissions.

For Master N7545 my sources were the AIR 81/2068 casualty file and the French Mission to the AASF report mentioned by Bertrand above and courtesy of him. There is no Form 1180 accident report card for this incident.
For Hurricane P2540 I used the AIR 81/2067 casualty file, the Form 1180 aircraft accident report, the same French report as above and the AIR 35/138 'Flying Accidents and Forced Landings in France 1939-1940' file at Kew in London.
Also the 4 R&SU ORB (AIR 29/802) for both.

Nos. 1-3 Salvage and Repair Section units are not recorded in the Air-Britain book you refer to (2nd edition), though Nos. 4-6 Repair and Salvage Units are. However no mention is made of the fact that all three resulted from the renaming of established units already in France. These three R&SUs (4-6) were all dedicated to the AASF.
No records appear to have survived for Nos. 1-3 R&SUs or their predecessor units if any. These served the Air Component but I cannot tell you much beyond that.

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Old 8th April 2019, 08:40
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2 Stig J., Martin G. and Bertrand H. - thanks for additional info, which is now in my archive by these photos.

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Old 8th April 2019, 11:49
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Re: eBay: Allied intrest

Thanks again Martin

Much appreciated details!!
Must say I wonder why such a random name change took place?

But if I understand you correctly
No 1 S&RS became either No 5 or 6 R&SU
No 2 S&RS became No 4 R&SU
No 3 S&RS became either No 5 or 6 R&SU

I will send Peter Amos an e-mail correcting his Master mistake. I now know from where he got that details. He copied what Jim Halley wrote in the L and N files.

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Old 10th April 2019, 04:02
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Stig,

Yes, No.1 S&RS became No.6 R&SU while No.3 S&RS became No.5 R&SU.

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Old 10th April 2019, 09:24
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Excellent details Martin (or should I say Mr Goldmine!! )

Thank you very much indeed!

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  1. Captured Caudron C.440 Goéland BR+IS https://www.ebay.de/itm/207-Foto-Luftwaffe-tolles-BEUTE-Flugzeug-mit-KENNUNG-vermutlich-ITALIENER/372647462606?hash=item56c38506ce:g:-WwAAOSwRfRcqiR8
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Hi all,

crash of plane - squadron code looks like XYoQ - so maybe Stirling Mk III
EF254 XYoQ from 90. SQ - lost on night 9-10.5.1944:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-x-FOTO-FLU...sAAOSwiLlcriV5

More info:
http://francecrashes39-45.net/page_fiche_av.php?id=1247
http://www.harringtonmuseum.org.uk/w...Operations.pdf - page 220

again looing for more info and confirmation of my theory.

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Hi all,

crash of plane - squadron code looks like XYoQ - so maybe Stirling Mk III
EF254 XYoQ from 90. SQ - lost on night 9-10.5.1944:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-x-FOTO-FLU...sAAOSwiLlcriV5

More info:
http://francecrashes39-45.net/page_fiche_av.php?id=1247
http://www.harringtonmuseum.org.uk/w...Operations.pdf - page 220

again looing for more info and confirmation of my theory.

Thanks

Faenor
Hello,

1944 - Not with that fuselage roundel!

One possibility is a very early Whitley loss:

15/16-10-1939
No.77 Sqn.
Whitley III K8947:KN-Q (not O, as in BCL1)
Op: Nickel.

Failed to return from Frankfurt. Reputedly shot down by A/A near Darmstadt, Germany.

F/L R WILLIAMS +
P/O J TISLEY - POW
Cpl A R GUNTON - POW
LAC R E FLETCHER - POW
Sgt J W LAMBERT - POW

See: BCL1 (rev.ed.)/83

See also: https://tailendcharlietedchurch.word...-personalities

Also take a look at page 4 of 583, of the above Harrington Museum site!

Could well be other "Q's", which took its place.

Col.

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Old 13th April 2019, 12:58
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Good job Col. !

The back of these photos with "Photo-karber" sounded German rather French....

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Old 14th April 2019, 06:38
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Hello,

1944 - Not with that fuselage roundel!

One possibility is a very early Whitley loss:

15/16-10-1939
No.77 Sqn.
Whitley III K8947:KN-Q (not O, as in BCL1)
Op: Nickel.

Failed to return from Frankfurt. Reputedly shot down by A/A near Darmstadt, Germany.

F/L R WILLIAMS +
P/O J TISLEY - POW
Cpl A R GUNTON - POW
LAC R E FLETCHER - POW
Sgt J W LAMBERT - POW

See: BCL1 (rev.ed.)/83

See also: https://tailendcharlietedchurch.word...-personalities

Also take a look at page 4 of 583, of the above Harrington Museum site!

Could well be other "Q's", which took its place.

Col.
Hi Col Bruggy - thanks for info, as is visible, I´m "blind on the morning" and I didn´t checked the roundel type .
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