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Old 12th June 2019, 10:59
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Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

Hello all

According of many sources (T.Wood,net,.....)

(78.) 06/09/43=B-17 (3 km. W Mailly-le-camp) 12h.10
(79.) 06/09/43=B-17 (6 km W.Troyes) 12h.17...7 mn LATER
(80.) 06/09/43=B-17 (LENS) 12h.29....12 mn LATER

For his 80th claim,the place and the time,it's IMPOSSIBLE.
LENS (north of france) being distant of 300km...and do it in 12.mn!!!!

Does anyone have an idea about this nonsense??

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Old 12th June 2019, 14:19
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

Hello Michel,

in JFV Vol. 10/IV the following claims of Major Egon Mayer of Stab/JG 2 are listed:
6 Sep 1943
77 B-17 12.10 3 km west of Mailly-le-Camp
78 B-17 12.17 7 km west of Troyes
79 B-17 12.29 Sens. Sens is not far from Troyes.
22 Sep 1943
80 Spitfire 17.17 east of Lisieux
81 Spitfire 17.20 east of Lisieux.

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Old 12th June 2019, 17:18
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

Ah!!!it makes more sense!! that's the idea I had!
Thank you very much Leo.

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Old 12th June 2019, 23:11
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Post Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

is that him?
http://www.aircrewremembered.com/Kra.../?q=Mayer+Egon

because "Mayer" is a common name in germany ...

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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

Egon Mayer is well known and it is him
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i'm sorry for asking ...
thought the link rounds off the thread?

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Old 14th June 2019, 10:26
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

Hello all

I studied the new facts:there remains a problem
If we base ourselves on the affirmations of J.Prien:
(79.) "abschus" ,(80.)?? for other sourceslace SENS 12h.35

However no B-17 crashed in the area of SENS
the closest crash are:
42-30000 92°BGroup,place "Estissac" 40 km of SENS
42-30203 388°BGroup,place "Coudray" 68 km of SENS
The distances beeing too important,this one seems UNFOUNDED.

NOW THERE IS THE "HIC"
According to all other sources:
(80.) "Abschus" LENS" 12h.35 (the hour poses problem?,false hour??)
42-5763 91°BGroup crash MONS-EN-Pévèle....15 km of LENS

NO OTHER CLAIMANT THAN MAYER IN THE LENS REGION!so FOUNDED!

So not SIMPLE:

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Old 14th June 2019, 17:09
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

I have not the time to check the accuracy of the webpage below, but it says this B-17 42-5763 was shot down by Ofw Walter Ebert of 10./JG 2.
http://faucheursdemarguerites.org/wp...-en-pevele.pdf


Linking B-17 claims to actual losses is hard due to the ability of the US heavy bombers to fly a long time after having been heavily hit.
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

Hello Michel,

the B-17 42-3293 of 388th BG, 560th BS crashed at La Chapelle-Champigny northwest of Sens (MACR 3113, German casualty no. KU 158). Five dead members of the crew were buried on the Community Cemetery of Sens in a group grave (report A.V. 267/43).

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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43

Laurent

I don't agree with the site of "les faucheurs de marguerites"
The victims of Walter Ebert are:
First victim:B-17 "10 km S.Villeneuve" 12h.25 ,it's "Villeneuve-l'archeveque (40 km of Troyes),it' the B-17 42-30000 (92° B.Group) crashed "Estissac" (20km of Troyes),shared with Harald Ottendorfer (his claim:12h.15 "Estissac" S.W Troyes),Egon Mayer (his claim:12h.17 "6 KM W. Troyes),Hugo Dahmer (his claim:12h.20 "Villeneuve".

Second victim:B-17 "2955/04 OST" 12h.35 ,according to the map "GRADNETZ",this correspond to the sud of Paris.
It's the B-17 42-30203 (388°B.Group) crashed "Coudray" in the Loiret.

Mons-en-Pévèle is in Quadrat 21../05 OST

Leo

Exact,the first victim of Mayer is the 42-3293 (388°B.Group) claimed 3 km W.Mailly-le camp. 12h.10
The B-17 crashed to "La Chapelle-Champigny"(16km of SENS and 80 km of Mailly le camp).

I don't have any answers for his 3rd claim (SENS 12h.29) if it's really SENS?

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