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Old 2nd March 2018, 19:37
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NJG Claim 2 March 1943

Could someone help me with the claims from this day in march 1943? Specific a Lancaster III shot down over Holland on 2 March 1943.

I believe it should be in the Luftwaffe Night Fighter Combat Claims book, but I don't have it.

I hope someone could help me, as I totally forgot the date and I would like to write a little piece on my website about this crash today.

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Old 3rd March 2018, 11:41
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Re: NJG Claim 2 March 1943

Hello Stahlbeton,
I found this :
2 losses of the 50sqn RAF (based at Skellingthorpe)
Lanc. B mk III ED423 crashed at Ridderkerk on 02 March 1943 (was attacked bye Night Fighters and

Lanc. Mk III ED592 crashed near Wadenoijen (5km of Tiel) on [b]1st March 1943 at 23.47Hrs (was attaked by Night Fighters)
I hope this helps
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Old 3rd March 2018, 14:35
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Re: NJG Claim 2 March 1943

Again here … after I found the excellent book:
Night Fighter combat claims 1939-1945 ©John FOREMAN, Johannes MATTHEWS & Simon PARRY
On page 68:

N1/2 March 1943

11/NJG1 Lt Rolf BUSSMANN Lancaster 40 km NW Vlieland 22.23

3/NJG1 Oblt Manfred MEURER Lancaster 10km SE Rotterdam 23.56


10/NJG1 Lt Oskar KÖSTLER Lancaster 20Km NW Vlieland 00.36

1/NJG1 Oblt Horst PAUSE Lancaster 8km E Tiel 00.43

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Old 4th March 2018, 12:49
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Re: NJG Claim 2 March 1943

Five Lancasters, five Halifaxes and two Stirlings were claimed 1-2 Mar 43 and of those, three Lancasters, three Halifaxes and both Stirlings were claimed after midnight. A location for the crash might help you further as the only crash locations I have after midnight are Voorst (Halifax), Zuidloo (Halifax), 20 km NW Vlieland (sea-Lancaster), Markelo ( Halifax), Nidderkerk (Lancaster), Roordahuisum (Stirling), St Martensdijk (Stirling), 40 km W.Texel (sea-Halifax)
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Re: NJG Claim 2 March 1943

Hello RedCap50,

Not being a productive author myself, it is not my habbit to criticize other publications but there is a good reason to temper the expectations of Foreman's Night Fighter Claim book. Lots of claims were taken from a notorious German list, made by the late Emil Nonnenmacher. He once included many fake claims as a sort of copyright security measure. The results were that many air war historians refer to German nightfighter claims which were never made in reality. Several of these claims were later included in the famous RAF Bomber Command losses volumes of William Chorley. You will not be surprised that I use the BCL volumes frequently but I also avoid carefully to use the references to German nightfighter claims.

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