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Old 31st May 2016, 08:34
Klaus Deschner Klaus Deschner is offline
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Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

Hello all,
have anybody information regarding the crash side of this Lancaster?
thanks for your help.
regards
Klaus


Flugzeugtyp: Lancaster III

Flugzeugkennung: # EE135, PO-Y

Pilot: P/O Arthur Long RAAF

Navigator:

Einheit: 467 Squadron

Datum: 23/24.09.1943

Uhrzeit: unbekannt

Angriffsziel: Operation Mannheim

Absturzursache: Abschuss vermutlich durch deutschen Nachtjäger OLt. Martin Becker, I./NJG6

Absturzort: ?

Status: 7 KIA

Heimatflughafen: unbekannt
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Old 31st May 2016, 10:02
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

First burial Cemetery Altlussheim

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Old 31st May 2016, 11:31
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

Hello Klaus,

Here's the entry in the NJWD 2nd edition:


Ofw. Kurt Grieneisen: 1 5./JG300 Lancaster over Mannheim: 5.900 m. 23.20 prob. 467 Sqn Lancaster EE135. Note: also claimed by Oblt. Becker (23.21 hrs; victory credited to Oblt. Becker 28.7.1944); claim Ofw. Grieneisen confirmed on 2.8.1944

Oblt. Martin Becker: 1 Stab I./NJG6 Lancaster nr Speyer: 5.000 m. 23.21 467 Sqn Lancaster EE135. Note: coned by 1.-4./Flakscheinw. Abt. 908 & 3./Flakscheinw. Abt. 300 (‘Lancaster Speyer/Ketsch 23.20 hrs’)

Are there any photos available of the Lancaster crew and possibly of the wartime crash site?

Cheers & beste Grüsse aus Groningen,

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Old 31st May 2016, 14:03
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

Hello Theo,
thank you very much for the information, this is the hit of the Lancaster EE135.
A withness told me the Bomber crash between Speyer and Ketsch near the Rhine River.
sorry i have no picture of the crew or crashplace at this time.

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Old 31st May 2016, 16:57
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

Klaus, English only, please and not a mixture of German and English unless an original document.
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Old 31st May 2016, 20:23
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

For what it's worth:


LONG, ARTHUR Pilot Officer 413396 467sq 23/09/1943 23 Royal Australian Air Force Australian Coll. grave 6. E. 4-8. DURNBACH WAR CEMETERY Germany Bad Tolz, Bayern

LUMSDEN, OSWALD JOHN Flight Sergeant 413779 467sq 23/09/1943 29 Royal Australian Air Force Australian Coll. grave 6. E. 4-8. DURNBACH WAR CEMETERY Germany Bad Tolz, Bayern

Date of Death: 23 September 1943
Source:
AWM 64 (1/426) AWM 237 (63) (64)
W R Chorley : RAF Bomber Command Losses of the Second World War : Page 333, Volume 1943.
Aircraft Type:
Lancaster
Serial number:
EE 135
Radio call sign:
PO – Y
Unit:
467 Sqn RAAF
Summary:
Lancaster EE135 took off from RAF Bottesford at 1901 hours on the night of 23/24th September 1943 to bomb Mannheim, Germany. Nothing was heard from the aircraft after take off and it did not return to base. Seventeen aircraft from the Squadron took part in the raid and two of these including EE135 failed to return.
Crew:
RAAF 413396 PO Long, A Captain (Pilot)
RAAF 413779 Flt Sgt O J Lumsden, (Navigator)
RCAF Flt Sgt M C Craik, (Bomb Aimer)
RAF Sgt J B Harrison, (Wireless Operator Air Gunner)
RAF Sgt C Weddell, (Flight Engineer)
RCAF Sgt H A Green, (Mid Upper Gunner)
RAF Sgt T Francis, (Rear Gunner)

Following post war enquiries it was believed that the aircraft crashed at Altertheim and all the crew were killed. They are buried at Durnbach War Cemetery, Germany. Durnbach is a village 16kms from Bad Tolz, a town 48kms south of Munich.




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Old 1st June 2016, 11:29
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

Hello Ed,
thank you very much for your feedback.
the EE135 crash between Speyer and Ketsch near Heidelberg.
the crew was burried in the small vilage Altlussheim, 2 km far from the crash side.
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Old 1st June 2016, 13:21
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

Klaus, the MRES report on the loss of EE135 should answer all your questions.

Regards,

Dave

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Old 1st June 2016, 13:59
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

Hallo Dave,
thank you very much for this great information.
regards
Klaus
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Re: Lancaster Crash EE135, PO-Y, 23/24.09.1943

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Hello Ed,
thank you very much for your feedback.
the EE135 crash between Speyer and Ketsch near Heidelberg.
the crew was burried in the small vilage Altlussheim, 2 km far from the crash side.
regards
Klaus


Hello Klaus,


Glad to help.



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