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Old 9th January 2019, 12:06
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Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

Hello

I have his second claim (11/07/43) and his fifth (08/02/44).

And his third,fourth....when is it?
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Old 9th January 2019, 14:01
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Re: Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

Hi Michel

Thats wrong.
1 26.03.43 LaGG-3
2 05.01.44 B-17
3 08.02.44 P-51
4 24.02.44 B-24
5+6 22.04.44 P-47

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Old 9th January 2019, 16:48
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Re: Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

What are your sources,this is not all the information that I have.

11/07/43=Typhoon (perhaps 198°Sqd)
05/01/44:with who? JG/26?
08/02/44=P-47(not a P-51) with JG/26
24/02/44=B-17HSS (not a B-24) and not approved

Perhaps a B-17 on 31/12/43 with 2/JGr West,and perhaps also another claim with JGr West (Bergerac)..hence my question.

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Old 9th January 2019, 17:03
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Re: Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

11 Jul 43 was EJ966 of 198 Sqn as I have a photo of Ellenrieder after the combat
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Old 10th January 2019, 15:31
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Re: Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

Hi Michel

The source was his flight log.

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Old 10th January 2019, 16:55
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Re: Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

Michel

Ellenrieder's first claim against the LaGG-3 dated 26.3.1943 is listed by Don Caldwell in his JG 26 book vol 2. It is not known if that claim was accepted or not, most likely it was not, since it is not in the microfilms (Johannes does not mention it for example)

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It is very strange that the Typhoon claim 11.7.1943 is not in his flight log.
It is listed everywhere and surely must be stated as suck on the microfilms as well.
Even worse is that there is no claim listed for him on 5.4.1944 what so ever.
Your other dates fit what has been published even if my sources disagree if the B-24 actually was that or a B-17. He did not get any official credit for his claim anyway.

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Old 11th January 2019, 15:17
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Re: Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

Hi

In his flight look I find an entry for 11. July 1943
Mission: Railroad monitoring with no comments

On 14.07.43 the entry was: 1 Taifun (Typhoon) effectively shooting

At 05.04.44 there is no entry in his flight log.

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Re: Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

Strange. The photo I have of him was taken at Lille Vendeville, the Typhoon on 14 Jul 43 was shot down Bf a Bf 109, no Typhoons lost on 14 Jul 43....
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Old 12th January 2019, 00:25
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Re: Xaver Ellenrieder (JG.26....and?)

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At 05.04.44 there is no entry in his flight log.

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No there can't be, my mistake (sigh... )
What I was supposed to write was 5.1.1944 as listed in post 2....

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