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Old 18th March 2019, 23:03
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FW190 Blades

A simple question : were the blades of the FW190 A-4 made of wood or metal ?

Thanks for your feedback, this will allow us to make an accurate drawing.

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Old 18th March 2019, 23:18
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Re: FW190 Blades

Hi,

according to my List, The FW 190 A-4 had the BMW 801 D-2 which used the metal blades (9-12153).

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Old 19th March 2019, 09:16
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Re: FW190 Blades

Thanks Grüne9.

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Old 19th March 2019, 17:21
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Re: FW190 Blades

Hello grüne9,

Unless I am mistaken, the following prop blades were used by the Fw 190:

Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12067 A = metal blades
Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12153 A = metal blades with external weights
Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12176 A = wooden blades


These props could be fitted to any version, but wooden blades were usually noted on newer aircraft.

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Old 19th March 2019, 17:40
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Re: FW190 Blades

This will illustrate FW190 A4 Wnr 140673 from JGr. Ost that crash landed on 1943-08-05 west of Toulouse, further to engine failure.

Pilot survived, A/C damaged 60%;

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Old 19th March 2019, 19:36
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Re: FW190 Blades

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Hello grüne9,

Unless I am mistaken, the following prop blades were used by the Fw 190:

Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12067 A = metal blades
Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12153 A = metal blades with external weights
Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12176 A = wooden blades


These props could be fitted to any version, but wooden blades were usually noted on newer aircraft.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin
Hi Steve,
I think there is a little more detail in the 1944 VDM parts list. As always, detail differences may be found in other original data. Firstly, it is worth noting that the complete prop assembly has a Gerat-Nummer and, the main components like Hub and Blades have Baugruppen-Nummer. Sometimes these are very similar and sometimes very different.
Without going into great details, the list shows the Fw 190 A-B with 801 C/D having the 9-12067A/B or the 9-12153A/B with associated numbers for the blades and, where the "B" Gerat props have the blade weights fitted (interchangeable units, can be either "A" without or "B" with). The blades for these props are all listed as metal.
The list shows the Fw 190 with 801T/H fitted with the 9-12176A Gerat, fitted with 9-30341.10 compressed wood blades (Holzflugel).
Of course the long-nosed Fw190D series are a different story but, the Junkers powered versions were mostly fitted with Junkers props with compressed wood blades.
I hope this is useful.

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Old 19th March 2019, 21:08
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Re: FW190 Blades

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Hello grüne9,

Unless I am mistaken, the following prop blades were used by the Fw 190:

Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12067 A = metal blades
Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12153 A = metal blades with external weights
Fw190A through G - VDM 9-12176 A = wooden blades


These props could be fitted to any version, but wooden blades were usually noted on newer aircraft.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin

Hi Steve,


that is basically correct, but schwarze-man pointed out, the Fw 190 with the BMW 801 C/D had the metal blades whereas the BMW 801 T/H had the wooden blades.


The FW 190 A to G was built in several versions with different engines. The FW 190 A9 had also a wooden Junkers blade. So the combination of engine and FW 190 variant gives more detailed information.



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Old 19th March 2019, 21:21
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Re: FW190 Blades

Hello SM,
As always, thanks for the cogent new information.
So, if I understand what you wrote, the metal VDM propellers 9-12067 or 9-12153 can both be fitted with the blade weights. With the blade weights, a letter “B” is added (example 9-12067 B). Without the blade weights, a letter A is added (example 9-12153 A). Do I have this correct?
Again, thank you for this information. I always enjoy learning new things.
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Old 20th March 2019, 00:02
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Re: FW190 Blades

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Hello SM,
As always, thanks for the cogent new information.
So, if I understand what you wrote, the metal VDM propellers 9-12067 or 9-12153 can both be fitted with the blade weights. With the blade weights, a letter “B” is added (example 9-12067 B). Without the blade weights, a letter A is added (example 9-12153 A). Do I have this correct?
Again, thank you for this information. I always enjoy learning new things.
Respectfully,


Steve Sheflin
Hi Steve, Yes, you are right but, it is a little more involved...the listed 12067 and the 12153 came in A and B versions, without and with blade weights respectively and, the list describes the fitment of the versions (Gerat) as interchangeable for the 190 as listed. It is a guess if the different Gerat just followed along as later versions but I believe from other sources that the blade weights were a later mod and what we see in this late list, is the late situation where the original standard (A) exists as well as the B standard (with weights). There are some differences in the blade characteristics between the 12067 and the 12153 Gerat, certainly most blades got wider in chord during the war period. Cheers

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Re: FW190 Blades

Dora and Ta152 had wood.
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