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Old 13th January 2005, 12:29
DIRKIO DIRKIO is offline
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looking for help about 8th AAf 3rd Bomb Division

Dear Sirs,
on my researches for my book about the Fliegrhorst Sandhofen, I was checking which Bomber Unit was doing the main attack on the airfield on 14 Aug 1944. I found on the ATTCk Chart the following written :
92nd A&B CW. I thought it is the 92nd attack and bombing combat wing. But researchin this I found only out that there is a 92nd bomardment group. The Mission flewn to the airfield was called Mission 552 and had 72 B-17.
Any, any help would be highly appreciated.
greetings from Coleman airfield
Dirk
www.fliegerhorst-sandhofen-coleman.de



Hallo,
bei meiner Suche nach den Einheiten die am 14 August 44 mit der Mission 552 der 8thAAF den Fliegerhorst Sandhofen bei Manneim angegriffen haben stecke ich fest. Ich habe fast alle Unterlagen( Briefing chart etc) aber mit den Abkuerzungen komme ich nicht zurecht. Es gab bei der 8thAAF drei BOMB DIVISIONS. Die 3. hat Sandhofen mit 72 B-17 angeflogen. Dazu sind folgende, denke Einheit, vernerkt :92nd A&B CW
Ich dachte das waehre die 92igste Attack and Bomb Combat Wing.
WAs ich fand war die 92nd Bombardment Group aber die ist angeblich nicht den Einsatz geflogen!
Wer kennt sich aus und kann helfen?
Vielen Dank im vorraus

Dirk
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Old 13th January 2005, 20:10
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Eighth AF 3rd Bombardment Division and the 92nd Combat Wing

Dear Dirk,

You are struggling with an understandable problem of the designations of Eighth AF subordinate units. It's a little complicated. Let me try to help.

As you probably already know, the Eighth AF was a very large organization with many bombardment and fighter
groups by August 1944. This mass of men and planes was broken down into smaller units in this way:

Eighth AF
Three Bombardment Divisions (1st, 2nd, 3rd)
14 Combat Wings
Ca. 45 Bombardment Groups (H)
Ca. 180 Bombardment Squadrons (H)

The 3rd Bombardment Division included the 92nd Combat Wing (subdivided into 92nd "A" Wing and 92nd "B" Wing for specific operations only). The 92nd CW all together included two bombardment groups: the 486th (also called the "A" Wing) and 487th (also called the "B" Wing) Bombardment Groups.

The Eighth AF also happened to have a 92nd Bombardment GROUP. This group was assigned to the 40th Combat Wing of the 1st Bombardment Division.

Basically, then, the 92nd Combat Wing "A" = 486th BG. The 92nd Combat Wing "B" = 487th BG. BUT—not all four squadrons from a group always flew every mission. AND—combat wings could be split up.

On 14 August 1944 the 92nd CW (486th and 487th BGs) was ordered to attack Fl.Pl. Mannheim/Sandhofen. THEORETICALLY, each group was supposed to launch 39 airplanes, for a total of 78. But of course that never happened. Only 76 airplanes were actually dispatched (lifted off); only 74 actually made the sortie (entered German airspace); and only 72 bombed the target with the formation leader.

The Fl.Pl. Mannheim/Sandhofen received 116.2 tons of High Explosive ("HE") 500-lb. bombs and 67.5 tons of Incendiary Bombs ("IB"). No American airplanes were lost, but some were damaged.

Source: AFHRA 520.332, 14 Aug. 1944, Eighth AF Master Mission Report, 14 Aug. 1944.

RA
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Old 14th January 2005, 07:48
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AMAZING !

Thank you very much for your fast help! Now my picture is a lot clearer and i have someting new for my book.
Thanks again
Dirk
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