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TA-152 in JG 301 ?
Hi everybody, i'm a new guy here but an old time luftwaffe fan. Here's my question. I've been told the JG 301 was the only combat unit to receive the TA-152 H. I've also been told the III/ JG 301 was supposed to receive these birds but they went to the stab/ JG 301.
So did the other gruppen receive these planes ? would the planes from the stab wear green numbers? if such is the case, were they any "yellow #" and wich group did they belong to ? I assume the old rule was still used ... 1-4-7 : white;2-5-8 : red (or blue) ; 3-6-9 : yellow ... etc lots of questions uh ? |
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Re: TA-152 in JG 301 ?
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III./JG301 did receive 152Hs. It received its first Hs (11) on Jan 27 1945 which they picked up at Cottbus. They flew their first mission on March 2 with no enemy contact, though they had to fend of attacks by 109s. When it was seen that III./JG301 was not going to reach its authorized strength of 35 a/c they were ordered to had over their a/c to Stab 301 and re-equiped with 190A-9s (March 13). The Stab a/c had green numbers. info from Harmann's Ta 152 book. |
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only III ? then wich staffel ? here's a pic ... would you say it's "yellow one" or "green one" ? ta 152 h |
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Re: TA-152 in JG 301 ?
Why do you ask which, III or Stab, actaully flew the H, as I thought it was clear that both did.
WNr 150007, 'black' 3 was flown by Reschke while with III./JG301. From text in the book: staffel 9 > white, 10 > red, 11 > yellow, 12 > black. It is a 'green' number. It is a cropped pic of a line up of Stab/JG301 a/c. There was also Jagdstaffel 152 (formerly EK152) part of Gefechsverband K.d.E and Stab JG11(4 to 6) that had 152Hs. Stab JG11 flew no combat but did loose 2 Hs on a transfer flight to Leck when engaged by Spitfires. Another crashed when landing. Buy the Hermann book. ISBN 0-7643-0860-2 |
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as we were discussing I showed this pic (i cropped it myself) and claimed it was the green one ... he said no it's a "yellow one" ... I then asked "has anyone jeard of a yellow one ?" thus leading me tto some researches on tthe net ... quite simple isn't it ? sounds like you agree with me about this plane, am I wrong ? |
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Re: TA-152 in JG 301 ?
Compare the number to the lighter color in the RV band, what do you think?
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Re: TA-152 in JG 301 ?
For what its worth, I can give some of the content of a letter from Ob.d.L. General der Jagdflieger dated Berlin-Kladow 20.03.1945 concerning the future conversions for all Jagdgruppen (Rüststandentwicklung in den Verbänden).
In this document, the only units to receive the Ta 152 was the J.G.301. I./J.G.301 was to convert from FW 190A-9/R-11 via FW 190D-9/R-11 to Ta 152. The same was the case for II./J.G.301. The III./J.G.301 had already converted fully to the Ta 152 and was to remain with this type. At this stage the IV./J.G.301 had been disbanded. The J.G.11 was to convert as follows: I./J.G.11 from FW 190A-8 and A-9 to Fw 190D-9. II./J.G.11 from Bf 109G-10 to Bf 109K-4 III./J.G.11 from FW 190A-8 and A-9 to FW 190D-9. |
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