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Old 21st September 2019, 18:13
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Looking for the Stammkennzeichen of a list of Bf 109Gs

I appeal to the collective wisdom of members of this this long-running forum, to identify the Stkz. for the following list of Bf 109Gs. The last entry is the opposite, I have the Stkz., I am looking for the W.Nr.
Many thanks for your help!

10677
13472
13918
150880
161482
165085
165086
165088
165092
165097
166089
166095
166098
166103
166166
166168
202045
413787
464625
491187
510908
511006
511903
512456
610589
610937
611023
611032
611076
612737
612771
612779
613090
760221
760254
760261
770284
780898
782764
785043
785728
BE+VV
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Old 21st September 2019, 23:12
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Re: Looking for the Stammkennzeichen of a list of Bf 109Gs

Dénes, in the old StKz database I found the following:

CI+KU; Bf 109 G-2; W.Nr.13472; I./JG 5

The rest I will group in one post.

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Old 22nd September 2019, 10:23
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Re: Looking for the Stammkennzeichen of a list of Bf 109Gs

Many thanks, Sinisa! The more, the merrier
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Old 25th September 2019, 16:47
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Hi Denes - I have the following

13918 - DU+YR
165085 - 165086 - NT+OS & OT
165088 - 165092 - NT+OV & OZ
165097 - NR+EE

Can you tell me anymore information about BE+VV - Was this a Bf109G-6 and do you have any dates and with what Unit? Thanks
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Old 25th September 2019, 20:36
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Re: Looking for the Stammkennzeichen of a list of Bf 109Gs

Many thanks, Tom, for the info.
It turned out that I didn't synchronise well the tables, so in one table I had the info for:
165085 - 165086 - NT+OS & OT
165088 - 165092 - NT+OV & OZ
165097 - NR+EE
while in the other one I had not.

However, the first entry was new to me.

About BE+VV, here is a snippet from a Bulgarian pilot's logbook, dated 4.4.1944.

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Old 25th September 2019, 21:26
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13918 - DU+YR could not be true - DU+YA to Z were all Fw 190A-8
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Old 26th September 2019, 06:36
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Re: Looking for the Stammkennzeichen of a list of Bf 109Gs

Why not? There is nearly 2 years between the issue of the two sets of Stkz.
I have stated before that there was not a separate two-tier system between 1st/2nd line or general use Stkz and Production Stkz. But those blocks that were issued to factories were often used several times, especially among those issued to fighters often only used for a short duration until assigned to their main Units but some did keep them longer. My main point is that as the gap of nearly 2 years (Bf109G-2 by WNF - 06:42 - 08:42 to Fw190A-8 by Focke-Wulf - 03:44 it does not seem unreasonable for both Stkz blocks to be correct.
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