Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 13th June 2006, 21:36
Stephane Muret's Avatar
Stephane Muret Stephane Muret is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 136
Stephane Muret
Unhappy B26 Losses for december 17 1944

Hi,

I'm looking for american B26 Marauder's bomber Groups involved in air raids over Rhine area (french-german border) on december 17 1944. Units, targets, losses including accident.
Any information will be deeply appreciated.
Thank you.

Stéphane Muret
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 13th June 2006, 22:40
Laurent Rizzotti Laurent Rizzotti is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 2,917
Laurent Rizzotti is on a distinguished road
Re: B26 Losses for december 17 1944

The USAAF official chronology is saying:

"TACTICAL OPERATIONS (Ninth Air Force): In Germany, weather prevents bomber operations; 1,000+ fighters fly armed reconnaissance, defensive patrols, and attacks on bridges and gun positions; the IX and XIX Tactical Air Commands also support ground forces (8th, 28th, 78th, 99th, and 106th Infantry Divisions, 5th Armored Division, and V, VII, VIII, XII, and XX Corps) against the counteroffensive in the Ardennes and in a battle to hold the Saarlautern, Germany bridgehead."

But it is not 100% accurate. The B-26 42-43278 of 17th BG was lost this day (MACR 10713) and at this time this group was based in Dijon, France, and probably flying over the Rhine area.

The official Army Chronology (http://cgsc.cdm.oclc.org/cdm4/docume...OPTR=192&REC=6, click on section part 2) indicates that the Seventh US Army attacked the forts of Bitche with air support (no more details) and that XII TAC sent two raids of 120 medium bombers against German fortifications between Ober-Ottenbach and Steinfeld.

The only B-26 accident listed for this day is a taxying accident due to structural failure for B-26B 42-43284 of 443rd BS, 320th BG, at Rouvres, France.

Also French B-26 bombed around noon the railway station of Freiburg with 18 bombers of groups "Bretagne", "Maroc", "Gascogne" and "Sénégal" without loss.

Hope it helps

Laurent
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 13th June 2006, 23:48
Six Nifty .50s Six Nifty .50s is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 246
Six Nifty .50s
Re: B26 Losses for december 17 1944

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurent Rizzotti
The B-26 42-43278 of 17th BG was lost this day (MACR 10713) and at this time this group was based in Dijon, France, and probably flying over the Rhine area.

Victor C. Tannehill's history of the 17th Bomb Group mentioned that the Marauder was shot down by flak. The crew bailed out safely and all hands made it back to Dijon. The MACR was filed probably because the crew was missing for more than 48 hours.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 15th June 2006, 14:30
Stephane Muret's Avatar
Stephane Muret Stephane Muret is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 136
Stephane Muret
Thumbs up Re: Thank you.

Thank you Laurent & Six Nifty, both you sent important informations. I believe 17 BG is a good way to follow.

Stéphane Muret
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Luftwaffe Aces KIA in Normandy in 1944 Christer Bergström Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 35 13th August 2005 21:10
Three US losses over New Guinea, Oct 1st, 1944 Laurent Rizzotti Japanese and Allied Air Forces in the Far East 0 2nd June 2005 10:33
Soviet air force losses 1941-1945 Six Nifty .50s Allied and Soviet Air Forces 12 15th May 2005 17:57
A-20 losses for september 29 1944 Stephane Muret Allied and Soviet Air Forces 2 20th April 2005 19:56
109 Losses during the Battle of Arnhem September 1944 Jon Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 3 10th April 2005 12:55


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:14.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net