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359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Hello to all
The 29 January 1945 the 1st Lt Daniels Richard H. (KIA)O-814657 359th FG 368th FS was killed probably by friendly fire , I am looking for the serial of the airplane , and if know the crash place . Many thanks in advance Regards Phil |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
It was P-51D 44-14325 CV-N. Apparently hit by allied ground fire near Ingwiller, France but have no details of crash site.
Peter |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Thanks a lot Peter .
May I ask you if you have the same information on the John Marr's A/C , he bailed out , the A/C crashed in the middle of a small town or village . Regards Phil |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Phil,
In this story http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/359FG/05_Apr_OC.pdf the town St. Genis de Saintonge is mentioned for Lt John Marr... Go to page 6. Regards, Leendert |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Peter,
A kind request to check again, but somehow 44-14325 is mentioned with 479th FG/435th FS instead, and according to website aviationarchaeology.com was involved in a taxying accident as late as 8 May 1945 at Merville, France... Regards, Leendert |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Hi Flupke
I have 44-14769 CV-A for Daniels Cheers Brian |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Thanks Leendert, Saved me ploughing through the "Outer Circles" as I have not got them indexed.
The information I gave concerning 44-14325 is correct, Daniels was flying at "Yellow 3". It never served with the 479th and I can only think that the Aviation Archaeology site took the information from my site earlier, but it is out of date. I have not yet updated my site as I have not got around to the 479th yet. The taxiing accident on 8 May 1945 was with 44-14371 J2-Y "Edith" with Raymond C Johnson at the controls. Brian, Again, the information you have has been taken from my site listing, which is also out of date! Sorry, but trying to keep up with the amount of information that I have to for all fifteen fighter groups plus the others is daunting, and I can't always keep the on-site list up to date. 44-14769 CV-A was certainly lost on 29 January 1945 when Garland C Madison (Green 2) bailed out 16 miles West of Exeter due to being out of gas. On the same date, which could well have caused the original confusion, John Marr (White 2) was flying 44-13908 CV-K when he bellied in and evaded. Hope this helps to sort things out for you. Peter |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Due to the interest concerning the 368th FS on 29 January 1945, here is the squadron line-up for that mission:
White 1 Baker, George F Jr Jigger 39 44-14500 CV-E White 2 Marr, John M Jigger 49 44-13908 CV-K Evaded St. Genis de Saintogne/FRA White 3 Collins, Cornelius J Jigger 35 44-11651 CV-V Force-landed A-37/FRA returned 1 February White 4 McCormack, James W Jigger 69 44-15618 CV-R Blue 1 Ettlesen, Charles C Jigger 77 44-15717 CV-Q Blue 2 Martin, Allan G Jigger 56 44-13762 CV-D Blue 3 Bossu, Marvin F Jigger 70 44-15096 CV-D Force-landed B-53/FRA Blue 4 Marson, Alfred D Jigger 60 44-11696 CV-G Force-landed B-53/FRA Red 1 Brown, Ralph L Jigger 75 44-15371 CV-Z Red 2 Kreuzman, Henry B Jigger 38 44-15067 CV-C Red 4 Denman, John A Jigger 37 44-11758 CV-T Yellow 1 Hunter, John B Jigger 81 44-14566 CV-C Did not take off (engine trouble) Yellow 2 Maiorano, Anthony D Jigger 45 44-15711 CV-J Did not take off (engine trouble) Yellow 3 Daniels, Richard H Jigger 36 44-14325 CV-N Killed by Friendly Fire Yellow 4 Ferris, James J III Jigger 63 44-11647 CV-F Green 1 Homeyer, Albert G Jr Jigger 53 44-11797 CV-M Early return Green 2 Madison, Garland E Jigger 48 44-14769 CV-A Bailed out 16 mi W Exeter/ENG Out of gas Hope this is of interest to you! Peter |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Peter,
Thanks for the abundant info and corrections! Regards, Leendert |
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Re: 359th FG 368th FS 29/01/1945
Many thanks Leendert & Peter
It's exactly what I need to know Best regards Phil |
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