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Old 15th June 2023, 14:15
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Re: Seat Harness

Quoting from AN 0l-60JE-4 (F-51D and F-51K Parts Manual Catalogue)
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44G5443 - Harness--Type B15 (GFE) (Supersedes 42G4027 and should be used with type B14 belt)
44G5437 .... (ALL) Belt-U.S. Atmy Air Forces type B14 (GFE) (Interchangeable with 34G1646 type Bll)
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Old 15th June 2023, 14:20
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Re: Seat Harness

Quoting from AN-01-25C-4 (P40M and N Part Manual)
Shoulder Strap – Part Number 41G8725

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Old 15th June 2023, 14:32
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Re: Seat Harness

Quoting from AN-60FFA-4 (T-6G Parts Manual Catalogue)
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44G5437 – Belt Assembly – Lap Safety Type B-14
44G5443 – Belt Assembly – Safety Shoulder Harness Type B-15

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Old 16th June 2023, 03:23
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Re: Seat Harness

Thanks for all that Adriano, greatly appreciated.

The Harness's I'm looking for (preferably with image of it attached to a pilot) are for P-40, F4F and P-47. There are lots of 'model' pictures, but all are of the belts themselves, not actually fixed into use.

I've read that many pilots would just attach a lap belt, so they could move around the cockpit to better keep and eye out. Nothing actual, all antidotal. To me there are a couple of things wrong with that. First off is that the American seat harness is a four point attachment ie over shoulders and across lap, so no single lap belt.
Secondly if a pilot tried to maneuver violently in a dogfight with just a lap belt, he's likely to be thrown about the cockpit (sideways) and smack his head on the canopy. Dazing him if nothing more serious.


To illustrate what I'm after, here is a link to a photo of the British Sutton harness in use. I'm after similar photo's of the American harness, if they exist.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...MygWegUIARDjAQ
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Old 16th June 2023, 12:00
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