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Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
Hi all
I am going through a Flugbuch relating to 5./SKG 210 and have found a couple of references in late 1941 to air battles with 'J 18'. I cannot find any reference to this aircraft type and wondered if anyone can identify what this might be. Any help will be much appreciated.
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Best wishes Tim O. Looking for any information or documents relating to: Alfred Schmittka 5./KG 54; Josef Harmeling 4.(Schlacht)/LG 2; Wilhelm Gaul 1./106, 2./906 & III./KG 40; Karl Müller I./KG 2; Werner Breese 5.(F)/122 |
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Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
Hello Tim,
there were different designations for the same type. In this case I-200, I-17 and I-18 for MiG-1. Source: JFV part 6/I page 11. Regards Leo |
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Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
Thanks Leo. Unfortunately I know next to nothing about Russian aircraft!
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Best wishes Tim O. Looking for any information or documents relating to: Alfred Schmittka 5./KG 54; Josef Harmeling 4.(Schlacht)/LG 2; Wilhelm Gaul 1./106, 2./906 & III./KG 40; Karl Müller I./KG 2; Werner Breese 5.(F)/122 |
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Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
It might also have something to do with how things sound in German. I've seen Yak-1 (as it would be in English) reported as Jak-1 for example, and Jl-2 for Il-2.
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Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
This hasn't to do how sounds things in German --- J is the handwritten form of the letter I (and the printed J) and I is the printed form of the letter I.
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Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
Thanks again gentlemen.
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Best wishes Tim O. Looking for any information or documents relating to: Alfred Schmittka 5./KG 54; Josef Harmeling 4.(Schlacht)/LG 2; Wilhelm Gaul 1./106, 2./906 & III./KG 40; Karl Müller I./KG 2; Werner Breese 5.(F)/122 |
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Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
And in the case of Jak/Yak … ?
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Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
Hi Nick
For what it is worth, my experience is also that a number of spellings in Flugbuche reflect German phonetics, particularly Russian place names, which can almost magically appear if we replace J with Y and Z with TS, etc.
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Best wishes Tim O. Looking for any information or documents relating to: Alfred Schmittka 5./KG 54; Josef Harmeling 4.(Schlacht)/LG 2; Wilhelm Gaul 1./106, 2./906 & III./KG 40; Karl Müller I./KG 2; Werner Breese 5.(F)/122 |
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Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
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Best wishes Tim O. Looking for any information or documents relating to: Alfred Schmittka 5./KG 54; Josef Harmeling 4.(Schlacht)/LG 2; Wilhelm Gaul 1./106, 2./906 & III./KG 40; Karl Müller I./KG 2; Werner Breese 5.(F)/122 |
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