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Old 13th January 2021, 21:35
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros B.II (?) B.1129/15 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Abgestu...kAAOSw0XBf8FxC


Albatros B.1129/15 is usually recorded as a B.II. Is it just me or does the rudder look a little like a B.III? It could however just be due to the manner is which the rudder is hanging, but it looks smaller thana B.II rudder.


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Old 18th January 2021, 09:46
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros B.95/15 of FEA 2 at Köslin :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Militar...4AAOSwfjRgBM11


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Old 1st February 2021, 21:22
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros B.II (Kon) B.429/16 of FEA 13 resting on a roof at :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/T44-Polen-Fl...UAAOSwlYtgF8-P


This incident has been seen before elsewhere.


There are also two photos of a festively attired Albatros B.II at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/T24-POlen-Fl...EAAOSwVnxgF8jL


https://www.ebay.de/itm/T25-Polen-Fl...QAAOSwfH9gF8lk


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Old 17th February 2021, 10:13
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Hello,


Showing a serial not recorded in the published sources is Albatros B.II B.798/15 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-WKI-Flu...wAAOSwGm1gKo~I


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Old 17th February 2021, 15:37
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Clint

How do you nail this one as an Albatros B.II?
To me it is just a lump of scrap wood.....just a little bit more "refined" then the forrest around it....

From an old list I have B.832/15 given as an Alb B.I (not so in Herris)

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Old 17th February 2021, 16:29
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Hi Stig,


I take it that you do accept we're looking at an Albatros, just asking because I can explain that too if there are any doubts with regard to the manufacturer.


Now I have an ebay photo of B.I B.832/15 and it is indeed three bay and therefore a B.I. However, the nearest adjacent serial I have for a B.I is B.166/15 and that based on a photo from Peter Grosz's WDF 87. Even here you can't see the serial but given the source I think we can accept that the serial is probably correct. What I'd like to suggest is B.I 832/15 is a misapplied /14, because that serial is right in the middle of a very large B.I batch. There are in fact very few known /15 Albatros B.I at all, and the relevant Aeronaut publication has B.I production ending no later than the start of June 1915.A further possibility is, naturally one of the Prussian style serials applied to a Bavarian machine, so, if you will, a false B.832/15.



In addition to the above I have a good number serials between B.798/15 and B.489/15 with photos to match, other than B.848/15 a Halberstadt B.I,which I suspect is a misnumbered B.648/15, all are Albatros B.II. Thus my thinking on the subject. As ever, I try to maintain an open mind and will change my opinion if the evidence changes.


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Old 17th February 2021, 21:30
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

No worries Clint

So what you are saying is you nail it because of the serial number rather than a visual ID?

I buy that.

However since you claim to have a fair number of photos of Albatros B.II in the range B.798/15 to B.849/15 (I take it B.489 is a finger hick-up?)
I can't say I have any myself.
Care to mail me privately one? I would also like to see the B.832/15.

I wonder if the Germans ever ordered mixed batches?

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Old 17th February 2021, 21:42
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Hello Stig,


Yes, I'll forward you the necessary.


In essence yes, for me the serial nuimber is key.I believe that the significant part in my previous post is the end production date for the B.I and that they are all B.II aircraft for the range of aircraft mentioned other than B.832/15 (if its not really B.832/14 or Bavarian).


As for mixed batches definitely. But see my comment about the end of B.I production. If we see a mixed batch by this stage its going to be B.II/B.III.
B.849/15 (as you correctly deduce is a B.II. The next serial I have is the first of a B.III batch, or B.II (Rol) or both B.864/15. The next desired photo from ebay for myself would be a machine from between B.849/15 and B.864/15.Though it might be a gap or possibly the product of another manufacturer.




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Old 17th February 2021, 21:44
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Thanks Clint

They are showing a Champions League game in 15 minutes, so no rush....

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Old 17th February 2021, 21:51
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Re: Photo Albatros B.II

Hi Stig,


Ok, but when you've finished with the football also checkout the following links, I think they're still good, but a bit rushed myself:




sammlung-merschroth.de/html/flieger_in_griesheim.html


which has B.842/15


and:


http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/image/tid/93



which has B.844/15

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