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Old 2nd October 2005, 02:00
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Hauptmann Dr. Albrecht Ochs, JG 3

I'm attempting to locate any items associated with the career of my uncle, Hauptmann (later Major) Dr. Albrecht Ochs, Staffelkapitaen 9. JG 3 during the Battle of Britain. In particular I'm searching for the Ehrenpokal he was awarded in October, 1940. Many thanks,

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Old 15th August 2022, 14:30
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Major Albrecht Ochs

Hello all

There has lately been some activity on the forum regarding pilots that served in both World War I and World War II and among these was Albrecht Ochs who I believed served as a bomber pilot with Bombenstaffel 20 and Bombenstaffel 22 in the first conflict and then with JG 3, JG 51, JG 53 and JG 27 as well as various staff posts before finishing with EJG 1 in the second conflict. He claimed one victory in World War I and four victories in World War II. Are there any details regarding his claim in the Great War? I know it happened on 3 January 1918 with Bombenstaffel 22 but nothing else.

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Old 15th August 2022, 14:41
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Re: Hauptmann Dr. Albrecht Ochs, JG 3

PERS 6/175781
Ochs, Albrecht, Dr.
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Personalunterlagen von Angehörigen der Reichswehr und Wehrmacht
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Re: Hauptmann Dr. Albrecht Ochs, JG 3

Hi Leo,

Yes, his victim that day was a Canadian by the name of 2nd Lt. Robert Leighton Moore Ferrie MC, a three-victory Camel pilot of 46 Squadron.
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Old 15th August 2022, 20:00
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Major Albrecht Ochs

Hello Vince

Many thanks for the information regarding who your uncle brought down that day. He was a member of a quite exclusive club as the number of pilots that served in both wars and claimed victories in each was very limited indeed.

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Re: Hauptmann Dr. Albrecht Ochs, JG 3

You're welcome Leo. My list of Luftwaffe pilots with fairly ironclad victories in both conflicts is at nine: Dr. Erich Mix, Alexander von Winterfelt, Theodor Osterkamp, Dr. Albrecht Ochs, Alfred Lindenberger, Alfred Helm, Alfred Mueller, Gerhard Hubrich and Friedrich Vollbracht. There are a few others as yet to be added to the list.
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Old 16th August 2022, 05:10
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Major Albrecht Ochs

Hi guys

Yes, that list of nine pilots who claimed in both wars is rather the same as I have seen. There were a number of men who recorded victories in World War I and even achieved ace status who later served in the Luftwaffe but did not serve in operational units or claim any victories. It is my understanding that of those nine men, all but Oberst Friedrich Vollbracht achieved ace status eventually.

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